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♪>>>WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS RIGHT>>>WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS RIGHT NOW ON A MYSTERY WE HAVE BEEN NOW ON A MYSTERY WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING OVER RECENT DAYS. FOLLOWING OVER RECENT DAYS. “THE WASHINGTON POST” HAS JUST “THE WASHINGTON POST” HAS JUST POSTED A FAIRLY JAW DROPPING POSTED A FAIRLY JAW DROPPING STORY ON A SUBJECT WE HAVE BEEN STORY ON A SUBJECT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COVER FOR THE PAST FEW TRYING TO COVER FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS. DAYS. THIS JUST BROKE WHILE I WAS THIS JUST BROKE WHILE I WAS DOING THE “A” BLOCK WITHIN THE DOING THE “A” BLOCK WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES ABOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES ABOUT THE WHISTLEBLOWER WE FIRST LEARNED WHISTLEBLOWER WE FIRST LEARNED ABOUT FRIDAY NIGHT FROM THE ABOUT FRIDAY NIGHT FROM THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE CHAIRMAN ADAM HOUSE INTELLIGENCE CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF.SASED A LETTER. SCHIFF.SASED A LETTER. A WHISTLEBLOWER HAD COME FORWARD A WHISTLEBLOWER HAD COME FORWARD FROM INSIDE THE INTELLIGENCE FROM INSIDE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WITH AN URGENT AND COMMUNITY WITH AN URGENT AND CREDIBLE COMPLAINT. CREDIBLE COMPLAINT. THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE WAS REFUSING TO INTELLIGENCE WAS REFUSING TO TURN THAT COMPLAINT OVER TO TURN THAT COMPLAINT OVER TO CONGRESS DESPITE FEDERAL LAW CONGRESS DESPITE FEDERAL LAW THAT SAID HE HAD TO DO SO WITHIN THAT SAID HE HAD TO DO SO WITHIN SEVEN DAYS. SEVEN DAYS. THE DNI BLOWING THROUGH THE THE DNI BLOWING THROUGH THE DEADLINE IS SOMETHING NO DEADLINE IS SOMETHING NO DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE HAD EVER DONE INTELLIGENCE HAD EVER DONE BEFORE. BEFORE. THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE SAID HE WASN’T INTELLIGENCE SAID HE WASN’T HANDING OVER THE COMPLAINT HANDING OVER THE COMPLAINT DESPITE THE LAW BECAUSE HE DESPITE THE LAW BECAUSE HE CLAIMED IT CONTAINED PRIVILEGED CLAIMED IT CONTAINED PRIVILEGED MATERIAL. MATERIAL. HE ALSO TOOK THE UNUSUAL STEP OF HE ALSO TOOK THE UNUSUAL STEP OF CONSULTING WITH THE JUSTICE CONSULTING WITH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHAT TO DO DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS COMPLAINT. ABOUT THIS COMPLAINT. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE TOTALLY OUTSIDE THIS PROCESS. TOTALLY OUTSIDE THIS PROCESS. ALL OF THOSE STRANGE ALL OF THOSE STRANGE CIRCUMSTANCES LED CHAIRMAN CIRCUMSTANCES LED CHAIRMAN SCHIFF TO CONCLUDE THE SCHIFF TO CONCLUDE THE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT MIGHT WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE PRESIDENT OR SENIOR PRESIDENT OR SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS CLOSE ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT. TO THE PRESIDENT. TONIGHT “THE WASHINGTON POST” TONIGHT “THE WASHINGTON POST” HAS JUST BROKEN THIS NEWS. HAS JUST BROKEN THIS NEWS. A SCOOP THAT SUGGESTS CHAIRMAN A SCOOP THAT SUGGESTS CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF WAS ON TO SOMETHING. ADAM SCHIFF WAS ON TO SOMETHING. TRUMP’S COMMUNICATIONS WITH TRUMP’S COMMUNICATIONS WITH FOREIGN LEADERS ARE PART OF FOREIGN LEADERS ARE PART OF WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT THAT WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT THAT SPURRED STANDOFF BETWEEN SPY SPURRED STANDOFF BETWEEN SPY CHIEF AND CONGRESS. CHIEF AND CONGRESS. HERE’S THE LEAD. HERE’S THE LEAD. THE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT THAT THE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT THAT HAS TRIGGERED A TENSE SHOWDOWN HAS TRIGGERED A TENSE SHOWDOWN BETWEEN THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE BETWEEN THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND CONGRESS INVOLVES COMMUNITY AND CONGRESS INVOLVES PRESIDENT TRUMP’S COMMUNICATIONS PRESIDENT TRUMP’S COMMUNICATIONS WITH A FOREIGN LEADER. WITH A FOREIGN LEADER. ACCORDING TO TWO FORMER ACCORDING TO TWO FORMER OFFICIALS FAMILIAR WITH THE OFFICIALS FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER. MATTER. TRUMP’S INTERACTION INCLUDED A TRUMP’S INTERACTION INCLUDED A PROMISE — PROMISE IS IN PROMISE — PROMISE IS IN QUOTES — A PROMISE THAT WAS QUOTES — A PROMISE THAT WAS REGARDED AS SO TROUBLING THAT IT REGARDED AS SO TROUBLING THAT IT PROMPTED AN OFFICIAL IN THE U.S. PROMPTED AN OFFICIAL IN THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY TO FILE A INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY TO FILE A FORMAL WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT FORMAL WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. IT WAS NOT IMMEDIATELY CLEAR IT WAS NOT IMMEDIATELY CLEAR WHICH FOREIGN LEADER TRUMP WAS WHICH FOREIGN LEADER TRUMP WAS SPEAKING WITH OR WHAT HE PLEDGED SPEAKING WITH OR WHAT HE PLEDGED TO DELIVER, BUT HIS DIRECT TO DELIVER, BUT HIS DIRECT INVOLVEMENT IN THE MATTER HAS INVOLVEMENT IN THE MATTER HAS NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCLOSED. NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCLOSED. IT RAISES NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT IT RAISES NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S HANDLING OF THE PRESIDENT’S HANDLING OF SENSITIVE INFORMATION. SENSITIVE INFORMATION. NOW IN TERMS OF WHAT THE NOW IN TERMS OF WHAT THE INFORMATION WAS OR HOW IT CAME INFORMATION WAS OR HOW IT CAME INTO THE HANDS OF THIS INTO THE HANDS OF THIS WHISTLEBLOWER, ONE FORMER WHISTLEBLOWER, ONE FORMER OFFICIAL IS TELLING “THE OFFICIAL IS TELLING “THE WASHINGTON POST” THE WASHINGTON POST” THE COMMUNICATION IN QUESTION WAS A COMMUNICATION IN QUESTION WAS A PHONE CALL. PHONE CALL. SO A PHONE CALL BETWEEN SO A PHONE CALL BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND A FOREIGN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND A FOREIGN LEADER. LEADER. IN TERMS OF WHO IT MIGHT HAVE IN TERMS OF WHO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, WELL, ACCORDING TO “THE BEEN, WELL, ACCORDING TO “THE POST” THE COMPLAINT WAS FILED POST” THE COMPLAINT WAS FILED WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL’S WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL’S OFFICE ON AUGUST 12th. OFFICE ON AUGUST 12th. ON AUGUST 12th, A DATE ON WHICH ON AUGUST 12th, A DATE ON WHICH PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS AT HIS GOLF PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS AT HIS GOLF RESORT IN NEW JERSEY. RESORT IN NEW JERSEY. WHITE HOUSE RECORDS INDICATE WHITE HOUSE RECORDS INDICATE TRUMP HAD CONVERSATIONS OR TRUMP HAD CONVERSATIONS OR INTERACTIONS WITH AT LEAST FIVE INTERACTIONS WITH AT LEAST FIVE FOREIGN LEADERS IN THE PRECEDING FOREIGN LEADERS IN THE PRECEDING FIVE WEEKS. FIVE WEEKS. AMONG THEM WAS A PHONE CALL WITH AMONG THEM WAS A PHONE CALL WITH RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN WHICH WAS INITIATED BY THE WHITE WHICH WAS INITIATED BY THE WHITE HOUSE ON JULY 31st. HOUSE ON JULY 31st. IN THAT SAME TIME PERIOD TRUMP IN THAT SAME TIME PERIOD TRUMP ALSO RECEIVED AT LEAST TWO ALSO RECEIVED AT LEAST TWO LETTERS FROM NORTH KOREAN LEADER LETTERS FROM NORTH KOREAN LEADER KIM JONG-UN. KIM JONG-UN. TRUMP ALSO HAD MEETINGS WITH TRUMP ALSO HAD MEETINGS WITH OTHER FOREIGN LEADERS AT THE OTHER FOREIGN LEADERS AT THE WHITE HOUSE IN JULY INCLUDING WHITE HOUSE IN JULY INCLUDING LEADERS FROM PAKISTAN, THE LEADERS FROM PAKISTAN, THE NETHERLANDS AND QATAR BUT, NETHERLANDS AND QATAR BUT, AGAIN, ACCORDING TO ONE SOURCE AGAIN, ACCORDING TO ONE SOURCE SPEAKING WITH “THE WASHINGTON SPEAKING WITH “THE WASHINGTON POST” THE TROUBLING POST” THE TROUBLING COMMUNICATION BY THE PRESIDENT COMMUNICATION BY THE PRESIDENT WAS A PHONE CALL. WAS A PHONE CALL. AND IN TERMS OF TRUMP’S PHONE AND IN TERMS OF TRUMP’S PHONE CALLS WITH FOREIGN LEADERS, AT CALLS WITH FOREIGN LEADERS, AT LEAST ONE OF THE PHONE CALLS IN LEAST ONE OF THE PHONE CALLS IN THAT PERIOD WAS WITH VLADIMIR THAT PERIOD WAS WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN. PUTIN. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE TROUBLING WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE TROUBLING PROMISE WAS. PROMISE WAS. WE ALSO DON’T KNOW HOW THIS WE ALSO DON’T KNOW HOW THIS WHISTLEBLOWER WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHISTLEBLOWER WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THE ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THE PRESIDENT’S PHONE CALL WITH THE PRESIDENT’S PHONE CALL WITH THE FOREIGN LEADER. FOREIGN LEADER. JOINING US NOW BY PHONE IS JOINING US NOW BY PHONE IS “WASHINGTON POST” REPORTER WHO “WASHINGTON POST” REPORTER WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THIS JUST CONTRIBUTED TO THIS JUST BREAKING STORY FROM “THE POST.” BREAKING STORY FROM “THE POST.” THANKS FOR JOINING US ON SHORT THANKS FOR JOINING US ON SHORT NOTICE. NOTICE. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.>>OF COURSE, RACHEL.>>OF COURSE, RACHEL. IT’S A PRETTY SENSATIONAL EVENT IT’S A PRETTY SENSATIONAL EVENT TONIGHT LEARNING ABOUT THIS TONIGHT LEARNING ABOUT THIS WHICH WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO CHASE WHICH WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO CHASE THE LAST FEW DAYS SINCE ADAM THE LAST FEW DAYS SINCE ADAM SCHIFF’S LETTER AND NOW THIS NEW SCHIFF’S LETTER AND NOW THIS NEW INFORMATION HAS COME TO OUR INFORMATION HAS COME TO OUR GREAT “WASHINGTON POST” GREAT “WASHINGTON POST” COLLEAGUE. COLLEAGUE.>>THE LEAD REPORTERS ON THIS,>>THE LEAD REPORTERS ON THIS, CAROL, YOU CONTRIBUTED TO THIS. CAROL, YOU CONTRIBUTED TO THIS. I WANT TO — FIRST, I SHOULD ASK I WANT TO — FIRST, I SHOULD ASK YOU IF I HIT THE HIGH POINTS YOU IF I HIT THE HIGH POINTS THERE. THERE. IT SEEMS TO ME THIS INFORMATION IT SEEMS TO ME THIS INFORMATION WAS A COMMUNICATION BY THE WAS A COMMUNICATION BY THE PRESIDENT, IT WAS A PRESIDENT, IT WAS A COMMUNICATION BY THE PRESIDENT COMMUNICATION BY THE PRESIDENT WITH A FOREIGN LEADER, IT WAS A WITH A FOREIGN LEADER, IT WAS A TROUBLING PROMISE THAT HE MADE TROUBLING PROMISE THAT HE MADE IN THAT IT WAS A CONVERSATION BY IN THAT IT WAS A CONVERSATION BY PHONE. PHONE. IT DOES SEEM LIKE IF THOSE ARE IT DOES SEEM LIKE IF THOSE ARE ALL CLUES THAT “THE POST” HAS ALL CLUES THAT “THE POST” HAS BEEN ABLE TO FERRET OUT IT BEEN ABLE TO FERRET OUT IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO NARROW IT DOWN SHOULD BE ABLE TO NARROW IT DOWN IN TERMS OF THE TIME FRAME AND IN TERMS OF THE TIME FRAME AND THE POTENTIAL THINGS THAT COULD THE POTENTIAL THINGS THAT COULD BE WITHIN THE REALM OF FACTUAL BE WITHIN THE REALM OF FACTUAL FOUR CORNERS THAT THIS COULD BE. FOUR CORNERS THAT THIS COULD BE.>>YES.>>YES. IT DOES MEAN — KEEP IN MIND, IT DOES MEAN — KEEP IN MIND, RACHEL, THE PRESIDENT SPEAKS TO RACHEL, THE PRESIDENT SPEAKS TO A LOT OF FOREIGN LEADERS EVERY A LOT OF FOREIGN LEADERS EVERY DAY. DAY. AND SOME WHICH ARE NOT OBVIOUS AND SOME WHICH ARE NOT OBVIOUS TO US OR RECORDED FOR POSTERITY TO US OR RECORDED FOR POSTERITY MEANING THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF MEANING THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF STORIES ABOUT THE PRESIDENT STORIES ABOUT THE PRESIDENT HAVING CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE NOT — THERE ARE NO NOTE TAKERS. NOT — THERE ARE NO NOTE TAKERS. WE DON’T KNOW FOR CERTAIN WE DON’T KNOW FOR CERTAIN EXACTLY WHOM HE WAS SPEAKING TO. EXACTLY WHOM HE WAS SPEAKING TO. BUT THE SOURCES ARE SAYING THAT BUT THE SOURCES ARE SAYING THAT THESE ARE THE CRITICAL PIECES. THESE ARE THE CRITICAL PIECES. SOMEBODY WHO USED TO WORK AT THE SOMEBODY WHO USED TO WORK AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND NOW HAS RETURNED WHITE HOUSE AND NOW HAS RETURNED TO THEIR INTELLIGENCE AGENCY HAS TO THEIR INTELLIGENCE AGENCY HAS COMPLAINED TO THE INSPECTOR COMPLAINED TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL THIS IS SUCH A SERIOUS GENERAL THIS IS SUCH A SERIOUS AND FLAGRANT ABUSE THAT THEY AND FLAGRANT ABUSE THAT THEY WANT IT ON RECORD, THEY WANT IT WANT IT ON RECORD, THEY WANT IT NOTED, AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL NOTED, AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAS ALSO MADE IT CLEAR THAT THIS HAS ALSO MADE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THE GANG OF EIGHT IS SOMETHING THE GANG OF EIGHT WOULD NORMALLY BE BRIEFED ABOUT WOULD NORMALLY BE BRIEFED ABOUT UNDER THE STATUTE. UNDER THE STATUTE. IT’S SERIOUS. IT’S SERIOUS. IT’S NOT A SMALL THING. IT’S NOT A SMALL THING. THE SOURCES ARE ALSO SAYING AND THE SOURCES ARE ALSO SAYING AND STRESSING THAT THIS IS SOME SORT STRESSING THAT THIS IS SOME SORT OF PROMISE THE PRESIDENT MADE. OF PROMISE THE PRESIDENT MADE. MEANWHILE, WHITE HOUSE SOURCES MEANWHILE, WHITE HOUSE SOURCES ARE SAYING TO ME THAT WE HAVE TO ARE SAYING TO ME THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THE PRESIDENT IS KEEP IN MIND THE PRESIDENT IS THE ULTIMATE SORT OF THE ULTIMATE SORT OF DECLASSIFIER IN THE GOVERNMENT, DECLASSIFIER IN THE GOVERNMENT, AND IF THE PRESIDENT DECIDED AND IF THE PRESIDENT DECIDED THAT HE WANTED TO SHARE THAT HE WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING SENSITIVE OR PROVIDE SOMETHING SENSITIVE OR PROVIDE SOMETHING SENSITIVE OR PROMISE SOMETHING SENSITIVE OR PROMISE SOMETHING SENSITIVE, THAT HE HAS SOMETHING SENSITIVE, THAT HE HAS FULL AUTHORITY UNDER THE LAW TO FULL AUTHORITY UNDER THE LAW TO DO THAT. DO THAT. THE PUBLIC MAY NOT LOVE WHAT HE THE PUBLIC MAY NOT LOVE WHAT HE PROMISED, IF THESE SOURCES ARE PROMISED, IF THESE SOURCES ARE CORRECT. CORRECT. BUT HE DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY BUT HE DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY UNDER THE LAW TO DO THAT IF UNDER THE LAW TO DO THAT IF THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENED. THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENED.>>ALTHOUGH, CAROL, CORRECT ME>>ALTHOUGH, CAROL, CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG, THE WHISTLEBLOWER IF I’M WRONG, THE WHISTLEBLOWER PROCESS, PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE PROCESS, PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY GOING INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY GOING THROUGH THE INTELLIGENCE THROUGH THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITIES INSPECTOR GENERAL IS COMMUNITIES INSPECTOR GENERAL IS SUCH THAT SOMETHING BEING SUCH THAT SOMETHING BEING CLASSIFIED SHOULDN’T BE A CLASSIFIED SHOULDN’T BE A BARRIER TOWARD IT BEING TREATED BARRIER TOWARD IT BEING TREATED AS A WHISTLEBLOWER MATTER AS A WHISTLEBLOWER MATTER THROUGH THIS PROCESS, RIGHT, AT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, RIGHT, AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY HERE BOTH EVERY STEP OF THE WAY HERE BOTH WITH THE I.G. AND WITH THE WITH THE I.G. AND WITH THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND WITH THE INTELLIGENCE AND WITH THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY — INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY — INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES IN INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES IN CONGRESS. CONGRESS. THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE CLASSIFIED INFORMATION NO HANDLE CLASSIFIED INFORMATION NO MATTER HOW CLASSIFIED IT IS, IF MATTER HOW CLASSIFIED IT IS, IF IT IS STILL, NEVERTHELESS, A IT IS STILL, NEVERTHELESS, A MATTER OF CONCERN OR GRAVE MATTER OF CONCERN OR GRAVE ABUSE. ABUSE.>>OH, ABSOLUTELY.>>OH, ABSOLUTELY. IT’S NOT SOMETHING THE GANG OF IT’S NOT SOMETHING THE GANG OF EIGHT CAN’T KNOW ABOUT. EIGHT CAN’T KNOW ABOUT. REMEMBER THAT ONE OF THE BIG REMEMBER THAT ONE OF THE BIG CLUES HERE IS THAT SOMEONE ALONG CLUES HERE IS THAT SOMEONE ALONG THE WAY, EITHER THE JUSTICE THE WAY, EITHER THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OR THE WHITE HOUSE OR DEPARTMENT OR THE WHITE HOUSE OR BOTH WERE CONSULTED AND THERE BOTH WERE CONSULTED AND THERE WAS SOME ISSUE OF PRIVILEGED WAS SOME ISSUE OF PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATIONS OUTSIDE THE COMMUNICATIONS OUTSIDE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, AN INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, AN AGENCY OTHER THAN THE AGENCY OTHER THAN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WITH SOME INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WITH SOME SORT OF PRIVILEGED SORT OF PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATIONS THEY FELT MADE COMMUNICATIONS THEY FELT MADE THIS THAT COULDN’T BE SHARED THIS THAT COULDN’T BE SHARED WITH CONGRESS. WITH CONGRESS. THAT IMMEDIATELY SCREAMS OUT TO THAT IMMEDIATELY SCREAMS OUT TO A LOT OF REPORTERS IS SOME SORT A LOT OF REPORTERS IS SOME SORT OF WHITE HOUSE EXECUTIVE OF WHITE HOUSE EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. PRIVILEGE. WE DON’T NOPE THE ANSWER TO THAT WE DON’T NOPE THE ANSWER TO THAT YET. YET. WHEN I RAISE THE ISSUE OF WHEN I RAISE THE ISSUE OF CLASSIFIED MATERIAL, I’M JUST CLASSIFIED MATERIAL, I’M JUST SAYING THAT SAY THE PRESIDENT SAYING THAT SAY THE PRESIDENT PROVIDED, PROMISED, SUGGESTED HE PROVIDED, PROMISED, SUGGESTED HE WAS GOING TO PROVIDE SOMETHING WAS GOING TO PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY SENSITIVE, SAY THAT WAS VERY SENSITIVE, SAY INTEL SOURCES AND METHODS. INTEL SOURCES AND METHODS. THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE REAR UP THEIR HEADS AND BE VERY REAR UP THEIR HEADS AND BE VERY CONCERNED IF THE FOREIGN LEADER CONCERNED IF THE FOREIGN LEADER WAS AN ADVERSARY OR THE WAS AN ADVERSARY OR THE INFORMATION COULD BE EXPLOITED, INFORMATION COULD BE EXPLOITED, COULD PUT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY COULD PUT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY OR OUR ALLIES AT RISK. OR OUR ALLIES AT RISK. STILL, THE PRESIDENT HAS THE STILL, THE PRESIDENT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECLASSIFY AS HE AUTHORITY TO DECLASSIFY AS HE CHOOSES. CHOOSES. HE’S THE ULTIMATE POWER THERE. HE’S THE ULTIMATE POWER THERE. I’M NOT SAYING THAT YOU COULDN’T I’M NOT SAYING THAT YOU COULDN’T SHARE THIS KIND OF WHISTLEBLOWER SHARE THIS KIND OF WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT WITH CONGRESS AS A COMPLAINT WITH CONGRESS AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE RESULT OF SOME OF THE INFORMATION BEING CLASSIFIED. INFORMATION BEING CLASSIFIED.>>AND, CAROL, TO THE POINT –>>AND, CAROL, TO THE POINT — IT’S INTERESTING THE POINT IT’S INTERESTING THE POINT YOU’RE RAISING ABOUT THE GANG OF YOU’RE RAISING ABOUT THE GANG OF EIGHT, OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, THE EIGHT, OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF INTELLIGENCE PROCESS IN TERMS OF INTELLIGENCE OVERSIGHT THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE OVERSIGHT THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO SEE EVERYTHING AND ABLE TO SEE EVERYTHING AND THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE BRIEFED THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE BRIEFED ON EVERYTHING NO MATTER ITS ON EVERYTHING NO MATTER ITS SENSITIVITY. SENSITIVITY. ARE THERE — FORGIVE MY ARE THERE — FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE HERE, ARE THERE ISSUES IGNORANCE HERE, ARE THERE ISSUES WHERE THE GANG OF EIGHT HAS BEEN WHERE THE GANG OF EIGHT HAS BEEN DEPRIVED ACCESS TO INFORMATION DEPRIVED ACCESS TO INFORMATION ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT’S OWN ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT’S OWN BEHAVIOR OR TOWARD THE BEHAVIOR OR TOWARD THE PRESIDENT’S OWN BEHAVIOR ON THE PRESIDENT’S OWN BEHAVIOR ON THE BASIS OF PRIVILEGE IN THE PAST? BASIS OF PRIVILEGE IN THE PAST? IS THAT GROUNDS ON WHICH THINGS IS THAT GROUNDS ON WHICH THINGS ARE KEPT SECRET EVEN FROM THEM? ARE KEPT SECRET EVEN FROM THEM?>>I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE.>>I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE. I DON’T EXPECT — IT’S I DON’T EXPECT — IT’S IMPOSSIBLE IT’S HAPPENED BEFORE. IMPOSSIBLE IT’S HAPPENED BEFORE. I’M NOT AWARE OF IT HAPPENING I’M NOT AWARE OF IT HAPPENING BEFORE. BEFORE. OF COURSE I’M DRAWING ON FAIRLY OF COURSE I’M DRAWING ON FAIRLY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE ON BREAKING LIMITED KNOWLEDGE ON BREAKING NEWS DEADLINE, NOT RESEARCHED IT NEWS DEADLINE, NOT RESEARCHED IT EXTENSIVELY. EXTENSIVELY. I WOULD SAY THIS TO YOUR SMART I WOULD SAY THIS TO YOUR SMART QUESTION, THOUGH, RACHEL, THIS QUESTION, THOUGH, RACHEL, THIS WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN FAR MORE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN FAR MORE AGGRESSIVE IN ITS CLAIMS THAT AGGRESSIVE IN ITS CLAIMS THAT CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT CAN BE CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT CAN BE LIMITED, CURBED AND CONSTRAINED LIMITED, CURBED AND CONSTRAINED BY THE EXECUTIVE’S DESIRE TO BY THE EXECUTIVE’S DESIRE TO KEEP THINGS UNDER WRAPS AND KEEP THINGS UNDER WRAPS AND YOU’VE SEEN THAT IN THE EFFORTS YOU’VE SEEN THAT IN THE EFFORTS TO EVEN JUST REVIEW THE FINDINGS TO EVEN JUST REVIEW THE FINDINGS OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. AND IN AN EFFORT TO TALK TO AND IN AN EFFORT TO TALK TO WITNESSES IN THAT PROBE AND THE WITNESSES IN THAT PROBE AND THE PRIVILEGES THAT HAVE BEEN CITED, PRIVILEGES THAT HAVE BEEN CITED, THE IDEA OF VAGUE THE IDEA OF VAGUE CONFIDENTIALITY OR WHITE HOUSE CONFIDENTIALITY OR WHITE HOUSE INTERESTS THAT CAN’T BE INTERESTS THAT CAN’T BE COMPROMISED, IT’S A PRETTY COMPROMISED, IT’S A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE STRATEGY AND ALL AGGRESSIVE STRATEGY AND ALL WHITE HOUSES TRY TO LIMIT HOW WHITE HOUSES TRY TO LIMIT HOW THE OVERSIGHT PEERS INTO THEIR THE OVERSIGHT PEERS INTO THEIR WORLD, BUT THIS ONE’S GONE MORE WORLD, BUT THIS ONE’S GONE MORE CONSERVATIVELY KEEPING THE CONSERVATIVELY KEEPING THE CURTAIN CLOSED. CURTAIN CLOSED.>>AND PERHAPS THE CONFRONTATION>>AND PERHAPS THE CONFRONTATION WITH WHAT THE INTELLIGENCE WITH WHAT THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HAS SET UP IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY HAS SET UP IN TERMS OF ITS OWN VERY CONTROVERSIAL, VERY ITS OWN VERY CONTROVERSIAL, VERY RIGOROUS, VERY WELL EARNED RIGOROUS, VERY WELL EARNED OVERSIGHT STRICTURES. OVERSIGHT STRICTURES. JOINING US ON VERY SHORT NOTICE, JOINING US ON VERY SHORT NOTICE, CONTRIBUTOR TO THIS NEW CONTRIBUTOR TO THIS NEW REPORTING FROM “THE POST” THANK REPORTING FROM “THE POST” THANK YOU FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND. YOU FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND. I APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE IT.>>MY PLEASURE.>>MY PLEASURE. GOOD LUCK, CAROL. GOOD LUCK, CAROL.>>PART OF A WHISTLEBLOWER>>PART OF A WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT THAT SPURRED STANDOFF COMPLAINT THAT SPURRED STANDOFF BETWEEN SPY CHIEF AND CONGRESS. BETWEEN SPY CHIEF AND CONGRESS. WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS UNFOLD SINCE LATE ON FRIDAY UNFOLD SINCE LATE ON FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN THE INTELLIGENCE NIGHT WHEN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF LET IT BE KNOWN HE WAS AWARE LET IT BE KNOWN HE WAS AWARE SOMEBODY WITHIN THE INTELLIGENCE SOMEBODY WITHIN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY CAME FORWARD THROUGH COMMUNITY CAME FORWARD THROUGH PROPER CHANNELS TO THE INSPECTOR PROPER CHANNELS TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND SAID I HAVE A GENERAL AND SAID I HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM. SERIOUS PROBLEM. THIS IS CREDIBLE AND THIS IS THIS IS CREDIBLE AND THIS IS URGENT. URGENT. THAT SET IN MOTION STUFF THAT’S THAT SET IN MOTION STUFF THAT’S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BY ROTE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BY ROTE WITHOUT ANY PUSHBACK. WITHOUT ANY PUSHBACK. THEY FORWARDED IT AND IN THIS THEY FORWARDED IT AND IN THIS CASE IT WAS DETERMINED THAT CASE IT WAS DETERMINED THAT SHOULD BE THE DIRECTOR OF SHOULD BE THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE. NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE. THE DNI WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE IT THE DNI WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE IT TO THE COMMITTEE IN CONGRESS TO THE COMMITTEE IN CONGRESS WITHIN SEVEN DAYS. WITHIN SEVEN DAYS. THE DNI REFUSED TO DO IT. THE DNI REFUSED TO DO IT. WE KNEW THE INSPECTOR GENERAL WE KNEW THE INSPECTOR GENERAL WAS GOING TO BE IN A — THERE WAS GOING TO BE IN A — THERE WAS GOING TO BE A CLOSED SESSION WAS GOING TO BE A CLOSED SESSION TOMORROW. TOMORROW. IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. CLOSED DOORS. CLOSED DOORS. WE WON’T BE ABLE TO SEE IT AS WE WON’T BE ABLE TO SEE IT AS THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS MATTER. THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS MATTER. THERE’S BEEN THREATS OF THERE’S BEEN THREATS OF SUBPOENAS FROM THE INTELLIGENCE SUBPOENAS FROM THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES IF THEY NEED TO GET COMMITTEES IF THEY NEED TO GET THIS AND FAST. THIS AND FAST. “THE WASHINGTON POST” IS FIRST “THE WASHINGTON POST” IS FIRST TO REPORT WHAT THIS MAY BE. TO REPORT WHAT THIS MAY BE. IN, IN FACT, THE PRESIDENT, AS IN, IN FACT, THE PRESIDENT, AS IS CLAIMED IN “THE WASHINGTON IS CLAIMED IN “THE WASHINGTON POST” REPORTING TONIGHT, MADE POST” REPORTING TONIGHT, MADE SOME SORT OF CLAIM TO A FOREIGN SOME SORT OF CLAIM TO A FOREIGN LEADER A, QUOTE, PROMISE, A LEADER A, QUOTE, PROMISE, A PROMISE THAT WAS REGARDED AS SO PROMISE THAT WAS REGARDED AS SO TROUBLING THAT IT PROMPTED AN TROUBLING THAT IT PROMPTED AN OFFICIAL TO FILE A FORMAL OFFICIAL TO FILE A FORMAL WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT, I WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT, I IMAGINE THIS ONE PERSON IS NOT IMAGINE THIS ONE PERSON IS NOT THE ONLY PERSON WHO KNOWS WHAT THE ONLY PERSON WHO KNOWS WHAT THE PROMISE IS. THE PROMISE IS. THEY’RE COMING FORWARD NOW THAT THEY’RE COMING FORWARD NOW THAT THE COUNTRY KNOWS HOW SERIOUS THE COUNTRY KNOWS HOW SERIOUS THIS MAY BE, WILL BE THE START

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