Sacha Baron Cohen RIPS Facebook

Sacha Baron Cohen RIPS Facebook


>>Listen to what Sacha Baron Cohen had to
say about some of the negative impacts of social media and the way dishonest political
actors have been using it.>>Today, around the world demagogues appeal
to our worst instincts. Conspiracy theories once confined to the fringe
are going mainstream. It’s as if the age of reason the era of evidential
argument is ending. And now knowledge is increasingly delegitimized
and scientific consensus is dismissed. Democracy which depends on shared truths is
in retreat and autocracy, which depends on shared lies, is on the march. Hate crimes are surging, as a murderous attacks
on religious and ethnic minorities. Now, what do all these dangerous trends have
in common? I’m just a comedian and an actor, I’m not
a scholar but one thing is pretty clear to me. All this hate and violence is being facilitated
by a handful of Internet companies that amount to the greatest propaganda machine in history.>>I mean, I’ve liked his work for a long
time but going into that speech, which I watched in its entirety. And you totally should, we’ve got a little
bit more, I was very impressed with his analysis of a number. Of the intersection of a number of different
problems and he’s very much right there. In a little bit, we’re gonna show you he goes
directly after Mark Zuckerberg. But you already have a basic idea of what
he thinks about Facebook, Twitter and all that.>>Okay, first of all, I gotta say respect.>>He seems to really understand technology. Okay, old school Ali G references but anyways. No, I love the guy, love him. Not only is he super smart, which if you’ve
ever seen him speak on this issue or any other issue, you would know. But also, deeply compassionate, he gave a
million dollars to make sure that refugees were taken care of. Muslim refugees were taken care of and so
the speech here is speaking at an event called Never is Now, for the anti defamation league. So this guy’s phenomenal. Now, his indictment of those platforms is
a really interesting conversation we’ll get into in a little bit. But so far unquestionably, interesting, brilliant
analysis that is worthy of serious debate.>>Yeah, we can say more as we get into it
but clearly he’s identified the problem at this juncture in this conversation. He’s identified what is clearly correct, which
is that there is a tremendous amount of propaganda being generated on these platforms.>>Yeah, and like I said it goes directly
after Mark Zuckeberg. So, why don’t we turn to that now.>>Let’s think about it Facebook, Youtube
and Google, Twitter and others. They reach billions of people. The algorithm these platform depend on deliberately
amplify the type of content that keeps users engaged. Stories that appeal to our baser instincts
and that trigger outrage and fear. It’s why YouTube recommended videos by the
conspiracist, Alex Jones, billions of times. It’s why fake news outperforms real news because
studies show that lies spread faster than truth. And it’s no surprise that the greatest propaganda
machine in history has spread the oldest conspiracy theory in history, the lie that Jews are somehow
dangerous.>>And he returns to that topic several times. We’ll get to the Zuckerberg in just a minute
but again, just very consistently good analysis.>>So off the air before we got to that story,
we happen to be talking about that same thing. And I literally called it the oldest conspiracy
theory during the break.>>Yeah.>>Because Glenn Beck had done a segment where
he had George Soros. And he literally called him puppet master
and had him pulling the strings, oldest stereotype in world history, right? So deeply, deeply antisemitic.>>Yeah.>>And so that stuff is being spread around.>>That was yesterday by the way. I mean not that that would be okay in 2007
or something but that wasn’t like back in his heyday, he’s still doing that. That was the program where the President’s
personal lawyer joined him.>>That’s an unbelievable, unbelievable, okay,
so I can’t believe that anybody would work there. Anyway, I’ll leave it at that. So now in terms of their responsibility but
that’s so that’s so interesting. Because it’s he, I’m afraid that if you just
watch that part it makes it seem like Facebook and Google etc. Favor lies or favor conspiracy theories, no,
what they’re doing and I’m trying to be fair. And by the way I have a conflict I should
tell you guys about, YouTube, Facebook are our biggest partners, okay? So I wanna be clear about that but what they’re
doing is they’re serving out what people want. Whatever they watch longer and what they’re
more attracted to, so in a sense there are real problems with the algorithm. Where Lemaster of Boston, who was on the show
all the time talks about he wrote a book called Beyond the Valley. And that there’s some of the cultural assumptions
of the people who create the algorithm that infects culture throughout the world. It’s a really interesting critique of those
platforms. On the other hand, what the algorithm is basically
doing is serving as a mirror. And saying here, I’ll give you what you like
and so, part of the problem is humanity. And I think we have to be cognizant of that,
it’s not like, I don’t want people to get the wrong impression. In my opinion, there aren’t people at Facebook
and Google going like, let’s put something really evil in here. They’re not like Glenn Beck where they’re,
okay, put in a thing in the algorithm. If they find it, they’ll know that the Jews
are the puppet master, right? No, there’s no plan like that. It’s just that the algorithm rewards what
people are passionate about and sometimes that’s fantastic and sometimes it’s terrible.>>But the algorithm does take you to some
of the most toxic stuff out there. And he does go on, I watched the entire thing
as well, I really recommend it, as John says, it’s really worth a watch, not long. He explains that, he explains that the way
it’s set up, even if it’s just raw algorithmic laboratory stuff. It takes you to some of the most toxic philosophies
that are on any platform.>>Yeah, yeah, and I guess I agree with you
that I don’t think that they’ve purposefully put something evil into the algorithm. But like so Dr. Frankenstein didn’t set out
to create a monster but when he realized it was a monster, he had to do something about
it. They know that they’ve created a monster and
they’re saying, it’s not on us. Free speech or something, I don’t know, I’m
not gonna do anything, yes, I’ve created something evil but it doesn’t bother me. And while it doesn’t bother me and while I’m
just gonna stand back, I’m raking in money. Based on my inaction for dealing with what
I created, it’s a best case scenario. It is amoral and they’re profiting off of
something horrendous continuing.>>Wait, profiting off of something that’s
amoral, I believe that you just described all corporations, they don’t have any morality.>>Yeah but I would argue that because they’re
far bigger than most corporations. Because they reach more people it’s even worse
when they do it.>>No, I understand that. But, guys, what I’m afraid of is if you take
that argument to its logical extreme, all you’re gonna do is go back to the establishment
media. So you’re gonna put in so many guardrails
that, we’re gonna go back to the era of acceptable thought.>>That is the danger that is absolutely the
danger without question even I found myself cuz I think you’ve got to rein this beast
in. But even I started thinking as Jenkins just
pointed out, which is okay, you start writing it in, where are you gonna end up? And he makes an effective argument, they really
need to do something now, Cenk. They have so much money, it seems as though
it’s not a lot to ask for some of those resources. To be directed to reining in some of this
toxic beast.>>Well, maybe he gets into that in the next
clip. Let’s go to the portion where he focuses a
little bit more on Facebook.>>Zuckerberg tried to portray this whole
issue as choices around free expression. That is ludicrous. This is not about limiting anyone’s free speech. This is about giving people including some
of the most reprehensible people on earth. The biggest platform in history to reach a
third of the planet. Freedom of speech is not freedom of reach. Mark Zuckerberg seem to equate regulation
of companies like his to the actions of the most repressive societies, incredible. This from one of the six people who decide
what information so much of the world sees. Zuckerberg at Facebook, Sundar Pichai at Google,
at its parent company, Alphabet, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, Brin’s ex-sister-in-law,
Susan Wojcicki at YouTube, and Jack Dorsey at Twitter, the Silicon Six. All billionaires, all Americans who care more
about boosting their share price than about protecting democracy.>>This is ideological imperialism, six unelected
individuals in Silicon Valley imposing their vision on the rest of the world. Unaccountable to any government and acting
like they’re above the reach of law. It’s like we’re living in the Roman Empire
and Mark Zuckerberg is Caesar. At least that would explain his haircut.>>That’s a good line. So look, now, he’s laying out the problem. We might disagree on exactly how you should
deal with it. But I think that most of us can agree that
what they’re currently doing is, I think it’s fair to say self serving, and it’s minimal. They’re not doing much, I mean, where do you
draw the line? I don’t know, you’ve got billions of dollars,
maybe you can experiment a little bit. I would start at the very least by actually
enforcing the rules that you have, which they don’t do or they change them when they’re
called out. This whole thing about allowing politicians
to lie in adds. Originally they had restrictions on that and
when people including Judd Legum show that, no you’re allowing Trump to lie over and over. They just got rid of the standards all together,
they say that you can’t have a sort of a bot networks of Facebook pages promoting all of
your content automatically. Daily Wire is doing that right now, they’ve
got 14 massive pages with huge reach. That, the only content they put it out, is
spreading the content of Daily Wire. It’s explicitly against the rules, as they
stand right now, that was pointed out to them, they don’t do anything. Because they don’t want to offend the right
wing and then, they lie about it. Zuckerberg, it was revealed, had a meeting
last month with Donald Trump. I believe Peter Thiel but definitely Donald
Trump and that’s during this time where we’re talking about his approach to Trump’s advertising. Did he reveal that? That he was having secretive meetings with
Donald Trump? No and he’s profiting mightily while this
is going on.>>So people are gonna misinterpret me saying
on the other hand is me not agreeing with Sacha Baron Cohen, that’s not the case. That normally on talk shows and I do this
very, very often. Strong opinions, I’m positive about certain
things, right, and this one I’m really not sure. I think it’s a very difficult problem. But I will say I think that the larger issues,
I think we’re kind of missing or we’ve got the wrong focus. The larger issues that are their corporations
have now become the new nation state. So they’re accountable to almost all the governments,
they’ve captured the United States government completely through campaign donations. And they’ve captured many other governments,
so that’s why they’re all unaccountable. We’re just seeing the ramifications of Facebook
and Google etc., more because they’re more part of our lives. We almost never interact with ExxonMobil,
we almost never interact with the other giant companies that have taken control of our government. So and we have no rules to rein in corporations,
we only wrote one line of code for them, maximize profit.>>Mm-hm.>>That’s the core of the problem, it’s just
that when you take it into social media, it creates these other ailments that we can see
with our own eyes. So I wish we would go and tackle that problem
because I think it would fix a lot of other issues first. And then that would also affect Facebook,
Google, etc. And I also don’t want to get into the demonization
and here again, I’ll admit a bias, I at least know Susan from YouTube. She didn’t know there’s no, look it’s my best
guess and you can say hey, you know her so you’re full of crap or whatever it is, right? Perfectly lovely person, there’s no crazy
hidden agenda of like, I will control the world. And I’ll drive people to the wrong places
for wrong purposes, no look, Facebook appears on the surface to be incredibly right wing,
right? But I don’t see that at other companies, is
much harder to discern.>>Twitter has got some problems with.>>Yeah, I hear you, it’s just harder to discern,
we dont really know, right? And so and I’ve never sensed there in my interaction,
again I might be biased cuz we have a relationship. On the other hand, if I thought there was
a bias, I’d be the first guy yelling about it, right? And you all know that and they’re in a very
difficult spot, and so that leads to the second larger problem. Which is there’s, we have an imbalance in
this country or one party lies all the time. But even the mainstream media, I mean, you
wanna criticize Facebook or Google, I hear you and where it’s a really fair debate. But how about the New York Times and Washington
Post that takes Republican lies and equates them to things that are true? And so I can’t tell a Republicans say this,
Democrats say that, now and Trump they’ve been better. But during the Iraq War, during the Bush Era,
during the enhanced interrogations, during Mitch McConnell’s reign throughout all this
time. I can’t tell who’s doing the obstruction,
it’s 50/50 or neutral, right? Well, then you’re equated lies to the truth
and that is terribly damaging.>>Mm-hm.>>So there are larger issues at hand that
I think are bigger cancers, that doesn’t mean they don’t affect Facebook and Google they
do. And it doesn’t mean that those companies aren’t
also contributing in other ways to the problems. But I don’t think the answer is simple and
I think if we just say, okay reign people in. Who and how? It’s a really hard.>>Yeah.>>That’s my sense of it.>>No, even discerning the lies is hard, because
most of the lies or certainly a bulk of the lies, exist in a gray area, so it is hard. I guess all I was saying before is and I think
all that Sacha Baron Cohen is saying and sounds like John saying in favor of it is well. Is devote some resources to it and try to
solve that riddle, it is gonna be hard and you may make a mistake but try to solve it. The other I would say is Jack is 100% right
about something we notice this. But the media mergers and the corporatocracy
merger mania that occurred late 20th century and early this century that has created a
handful of beasts, so if you’re gonna tackle these guys. You also have to go after the other corporate
beasts and I don’t think that’s gonna happen.>>Yeah, last thing is, look, even if I disagree
of parts of what Sacha Baron Cohen is saying. I deeply respect him for bringing up this
really important issue that we should all have a national and even international conversation
about. And come to some sort of conclusion cuz right
now, yes there are things that go bumping tonight and certainly on the Internet. And we’re all throwing our hands up going,
I guess there’s nothing that could be done about it. Maybe that is the answer but maybe it’s not
and we show up, making a concerted effort to figure out what can be done.>>Yeah.

100 comments

  1. Know More News did an excellent take, ripping Sasha’s speech apart piece by piece, unlike your bullshit pr0paganda channel.

  2. I know we say we want more public participation in politics, but we don't really.

    Unfortunately, the people in a pretty ignorant state, can't handle positive freedoms.

    The people need at least a decade of de-dumbing down

  3. SBC says to use the laws on the books already for Movies, TV and publication to these new type of publishers. We already have laws and regs..apply them!

  4. So Borat wants Zuckerberg deciding what political ads are, and are not, acceptable truth. What if the Koch brothers owned Twitter ?

  5. "I have built my career using the strength of freedom of speech. And I have certainly felt free to use explosive — even very politically incorrect, "toxic", "evil" — comedy to make a fortune. It's been great — for me.

    This is why I now call on major private companies to better control free speech."

    Wow… 🙄

  6. Sasha is asking us to beg for censorship. People can decide what is the truth. Sasha is one of them, controlled opposition, just like tyt. Nothing he said in that speech was new information. Problem reaction solution.

  7. There should be a law against fake or misleading news. Yes we have freedom of the press but they are abusing and taking advantage of it

  8. IDK there WILL always be an overlay of greed and bullshite on the planet as well as KINDNESS and do no harm A SNAKE is a snake some chop the head off the snake some tongue kiss it

  9. These algorithms are not serving as a mirror; it is serving as a magnifying glass. It is concentrating paranoias. It allows people to believe that everyone agrees or should agree with them. We don’t pursue dissenting ideas by nature. We come across ideas thru unfiltered exposer. Stop the filter. We don’t need the algorithm. People can conduct searches and get all the information; not just the ideas they are used to hearing.

  10. Liberal social media has mastered pushing false narratives and recruiting the the mindless tv/social media addicted masses to have them push thoughts and opinions that are not even their own.

  11. Great to see TYT take off the mask and reveal itself who they are – authoritarian control freaks – info-nazis under a different name.
    So now you side with ADL – that is the bottom of the barrel.

  12. Golf of Tonkin, weapons of mass destruction all shared lies by the “REAL” media in the passed. Free speech can be dangerous. Why should we go back to the News being controlled by the rich and powerful. Quit being scared Or just go in your bedroom because that’s your safe please, like our college students.

  13. The bigger issue is how we let them run our lifes. Dont give into the social machine. Live your life in the real world people.

  14. What is Sacha Baron Cohen’s definition of truth? He said Antifa doesn’t engage in terrorist activity even though they have committed a mass shooting in Dayton and attacked DHS facilities. By his logic isn’t he promoting falsehoods?

  15. Free speech? That’s hilarious bc YouTube is censoring the sh*t out of the individuals with channels! There are more than 1500 on their no no list that can get the content creators sanctioned, and most of those words aren’t even profanity, they’re just ugly/uncomfortable topics. So complete and outright misinformation and propaganda are okay…but calling out someone’s pr*datory behavior is unacceptable? Ftw?

  16. Don’t fall for this guys. ADL is going after the free speech as if someone put them in charge. Voltaire: To find out who controls you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. Also, what do these big tech companies have in common? Jooish owners 🤔

  17. Why is it anti-Semitic to point out the very fact that all major media’s, such as YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Google, are owned by joos, and ADL is run by joos, and they somehow are in charge of deciding what free speech is. It is a conspiracy fact, think about it.
    They tell you this to your face yet you refuse to see it for what it is.

  18. @cenk check your capitalist urges, just cuz your bread is buttered from MarkyPoo… you fight the establishment, but you won't even see how chained you are to that behemoth. Are you scared of them?

  19. Something wrong in your line of reasoning , the algorithms are designed to amplify and exploit the worst in us to fight their intestine war for control . And then they allow and profit political advertising on a grand scale .
    Of late I've been inundated by anti BDS propaganda from the Israeli government , a slightly obscene occurrence when concomitant to the Trump's green light to the annexation of the West bank .
    Second comes guess what ? Brazilian state propaganda for its "liberal" and "ecological" economy . Youtube makes me barf and Facebook outright vomit and yet here am I.

  20. The best antidote to bullshit and lies is truth not censorship. People are smarter then TYT or Sasha give them credit for. We don’t need elites in media and entertainment to “protect us from the lies”. What a joke you people are. Incredibly insulting to the regular folks. Please save us from our stupidity! Yea right. Maybe you dipshits are just WRONG and figure you can label an opposing position as propaganda as a way to censor things. I guess I’m just a regular working dad from a swing state in the Midwest so what do I know?

  21. Firstly i am a Englishishman myself and secondly this tragic example should i believe finally lay to rest the American belief that all well spoken Englishmen must be by default intelligent because this abortion of a speech by Cohen's is about as moronic as it gets. Although Cenk has come close on several occasions lol

  22. You know Zuckerberg/Facebook has to really be right on an issue for me to agree with them, you can make an argument about them adjusting the algorithm but censorship not the answer. Do we want big business or Governments or an unholy partnership of both controlling speech that's more scary to me. Fight lies with Facts.

  23. A SECRETIVE PROPAGANDA UNIT IS MANIPULATING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT IT'S NOT RUSSIAN ~~ the article by 'The Canary.' One method: 'Create Fake Bot channels/personalities to spread lies + mistrust.' Try CLICKING ON usernames – Empty channel ? mmm.

  24. So liberals want to decide what is true and what isn't for us all? They want to block their opposition's side? That isn't hard to believe at all.

  25. Social media is designed to thrive on arguments, controversy and conflict. You can't down-vote this comment. That button is a lie. Someone says something horrible and those who agree with it, vote it up. People argue with it and push back but those comments are hidden behind a replies button. The push back only pushes the hate and negativity to the top.

    Social media thrives on this. They want you to argue and fight. They want you angry and debating because that's how they make money.

  26. TYT does not care that Cohen has made a career out of mocking different races. Because like Cohen, and ADL, TYT are not the anti-racists they pretend to be either.

  27. An algorithm is not acting as a mirror. Algorithm tuned to maximize engagement (click-through rate) as that generates views & ad revenue. And the easiest way to do that is to present the most polarizing content possible as extremes drive engagement, not balanced middle ground opinion. And as soon as you have started to engage, the algorithm keeps amplifying the point to drive you further and further on polarisation scale… in a few steps, you can find yourself in a very interesting space…

  28. Stilted language is wasted on toilet paper like Facebook, Twitter and Googol, nursery school crap. What would Aristotle have said? How could you even talk to Aristotle? He was too wise to be touched.

  29. What about the long existing propaganda which the disruption u talk about is deliberately manipulated i.e. the Tavistok trust, common purpose etc etc. It's not race it's world leaders and their entity possessed operators, chem trails water yea but the most effective stand down is the corruption of language and the fraud of law and consent

  30. This guy is an fn hypocrite, this man makes millions off his hate crime, but it's ok when he does it but you cant make fun of the things he makes fun of.

  31. he is the basterd child of america zionist lobby and Israel.he just showing his loyalty to zion.he is not a comedian.look at robin william,jim carrey,they r real actor and comedian.normally he is boring person.

  32. on Frankenstein: when the doctor realized the creature's natural hidesousness, the doctor ignored him and he learned to survive on his own

  33. Zuckerberg wants to go on about "freedom of expression" even though Facebook will ban you for the most asinine reasons. I got banned for calling someone "white trash" in a semi-joking manner, because Facebook ruled that it was "hate speech"…. I myself am white by the way…

  34. Google pictures of "emaciated typhus vicctims" and take note how they're
    IDENTICAL to those WWII photos we're all familiar with? Here's a
    sourced quotes straight from their own mouths bragging how they were
    behind Communism which left 100 plus MILLION who were murdered and I've
    got plenty more where that came from. Oh, BTW… Commonsense isn't
    Antisemitic, it's Anti-Septic, helping to stop the spread of bullshit
    from spreading throughout the world. Words like that and "Nazi" have
    lost all meaning and clout from overuse, undoubtedly, the truth coming
    out.
    "Since the )ews are the highest and most cultured people on earth, the
    )ews have a right to subordinate to themselves the rest of mankind and
    to be the masters over the whole earth… The )ews will become the master
    over the whole earth and they will subordinate to themselves all
    nations… Judaism is communism, internationalism, the universal
    brotherhood of man, THE EMANCIPATION OF THE WORKING CLASS AND THE HUMAN
    SOCIETY. It is with these spiritual weapons that the )ews will conquer
    the world and the Human race…” A Program for the )ews and Humanity, by
    Rabbi Harry Waton

  35. Google pictures of "emaciated typhus vicctims" and take note how they're
    IDENTICAL to those WWII photos we're all familiar with? Here's a
    sourced quotes straight from their own mouths bragging how they were
    behind Communism which left 100 plus MILLION who were murdered and I've
    got plenty more where that came from. Oh, BTW… Commonsense isn't
    Antisemitic, it's Anti-Septic, helping to stop the spread of bullshit
    from spreading throughout the world. Words like that and "Nazi" have
    lost all meaning and clout from overuse, undoubtedly, the truth coming
    out.
    "Since the )ews are the highest and most cultured people on earth, the
    )ews have a right to subordinate to themselves the rest of mankind and
    to be the masters over the whole earth… The )ews will become the master
    over the whole earth and they will subordinate to themselves all
    nations… Judaism is communism, internationalism, the universal
    brotherhood of man, THE EMANCIPATION OF THE WORKING CLASS AND THE HUMAN
    SOCIETY. It is with these spiritual weapons that the )ews will conquer
    the world and the Human race…” A Program for the )ews and Humanity, by
    Rabbi Harry Waton

  36. WARNING: Cenk’s conflict of interest at (12:25). He will defend Youtube because it’s in his best interest but then attacks Facebook because he has nothing to gain from them. This was really bad by Cenk and admitting your bias does not excuse you.

  37. I'm SO sick of hearing that TYT membership plug at the end. If I have to hear Cenk talk about how great the emojii are one more time, I'm gonna puke.
    Enough already. I always have to turn the video off at the end so I don't have to put up with it, which makes TYT videos really annoying to have in a playlist.

  38. L.O.L!!
    SBC totally PUNKED the leftist ADL
    by doing his ultimate impression
    of a "classy" (but still w/ the tell
    of his slightly fudged speech)
    Brit going goofy over how nasty
    it is to let people be free when
    their "betters" know so much more

  39. i started watching workout videos on youtube
    youtube very quickly started offering me videos that were much more suggestive of bodybuilders doing inappropriate things. Within one week, youtube was sending me videos of underage boys flexing in their underwear.

    I am passionate about working out and healthy lifestyle… not illegal underage boys.

    The algorithm is dangerous.

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