Ravi Zacharias on the Christian View of Homosexuality #Apologetics

Ravi Zacharias on the Christian View of Homosexuality #Apologetics


this is a question from the Stow campus
and it’ll say it says how do you respond to non-believers who accuse Christians
of being hateful to people who support lifestyles that are according to the
precepts of our faith. I think this is a very important question and they all are
really I’d be a dishonest person if I said to you that that question doesn’t
worry me that I don’t even think about it
in fact we as a team our entire team people like Nabeel Qureshi Michel
Ramsden oz Guinness a Maori Ewing aren’t ice because too often sat around a table
and said you know how do we deal with this very trying social issue of our
time and even though the word is not used here the idea is you know the
homosexual lifestyle and all that has come about in our time how do we as
Christians deal with it? So Joe if you don’t mind I’d like to take an extended
answer in this you know let me give you about three panels of an answer the
first panel is the logical problem the second panel is what I call the
theological problem and the third panel is what I would call the relational
problem how you communicate it so let me take first of all the sociological issue
here what is the problem now we talked about tolerance so when I was at one of
the prestigious universities somebody went to the microphone and asked this
question and I said to the person I said I will be glad to answer your question
if you will first answer mine what kind of a culture are we living in you have
to define it for me I said as far as I know there are three cultures in
relation to absolute the first quest the first culture is called a thick anima
sculpture where the law of God is supposedly so embedded into our hearts
that we all emotive ly or otherwise think in the same categories once upon a
time we would talk about the natural law in those categories natural law we
believe these truths to be self-evident the early framers believed in the
natural law we don’t believe in natural law
anymore but we used to talk about and that’s a thick anima sculpture theros
god no mas law sometimes the Indian culture will get close to that it’s not
always the case but they sort of Darth Academy is what they will say there are
people of the soil and the idea of respect for parents and all of that they
consider to be self-evident ingrained in the heart of man and so on but we don’t
believe in the Theon immerse culture in the West so what’s the second kind of
culture the second kind of culture is a heteronomous culture heteros meaning
another No Mas meaning law so we have another law what does that mean the
mainstream of the culture is dictated to by the leadership at the top if you look
at Marxism in secular terms it is a heteronomous culture the handful and the
top will control the masses if you look at Islam it’s a heteronomous culture if
you go to Saudi Arabia or you go to Iran which are supposed to be truly Islamic
countries the mullahs or the sheiks or who are the ayatollahs at the top will
tell the masses when they must fast when they can eat what they must wear what
they must not wear who they can be seen with who they cannot be seen with all of
the dictates even to the discipline of how you wash your hands and feet before
you worship and so on it’s a heteronomous culture the few at the top
dictated for the masses below so I looked at the question and I said a
really enormous culture I said no I said are we a heteronomous culture I said no
we don’t want the few to dictate it for the money I said so that leaves us with
the third which is an autonomous culture our toss meaning self namaz meaning law
which means each person dictates their own moral prerogatives in the set I said
are we on autonomous culture he said yes I saw right now tell me this if we are
on autonomous culture and I answer your question are you going to give me the
privilege of my autonomy too or as soon as you disagree with my answer you will
switch to a heteronomous mode and dictate for me what I must believe as
well that is the sociological dilemma that is the sociological dilemma because
if a disagrees would be it’s not just that is being enforcing his or her
principles upon being but B wants to enforce his or her
principles upon a so there’s a mutual autocracy being sought here but it is
never going to be consistent in a culture that is neither phenom us nor
heteronomous autonomous cultures run into a conflict where everybody has
their own autonomy that’s the law that’s a sociological issue you move beyond
that then to the theological issue the theological issue is this way years ago
I was doing some open forums at Indiana University and the press reporter was I
was there with Dallas Willard we were both to debate doing the defense of the
Christian faith and press reporter came and said she was filming some religious
actions on campus for their network and so on do you mind if we take what you’re
going to talk about tonight I said no that’s all right you’re welcome but she
then she startled me by saying we’ll only be there for about five minutes and
then we’ll be packing up and leaving I hope we won’t disturb you and I thought
this is what the news does with the talk takes five minutes of it and then tells
people that this is what was said you know I thought okay but I wasn’t gonna
argue with I said ma’am you’re welcome to leave just tell your crew to be very
quiet because once I get into the thick of it I really don’t like the
distraction and they’ll be quiet slipping out I’ll be okay she stayed the
whole time stayed for the whole talk stayed for the Q&A and then she said can
I walk you back to where you’re staying I was staying on the campus I said right
and she was walking to me it’s quite dark at this time and she says I have a
question for you I said is this on the record or is this an off-the-record
question she said no this is for me I said so you
promise me this is just between you and me in order to print these answers and
okay that’s all right I just want to know and so she said you know I have a
problem with Christianity and here’s my problem
Christians are generally against racism but when it comes to the homosexual they
discriminate against the homosexual how do you explain that I said I find your
comments so interesting in the first part of the question it’s an ism you’re
talking about the second part of the question you particular eyes it with
individual some just fascinated by that that’s okay I said here’s what I want to
say to you the reason we believe that discrimination ethnically is wrong is
because the race and ethnicity of a person is sacred you do not violate a
person’s ethnicity and race it is a sacred gift and the reason we believe in
an absolute nester sexuality is because we believe sexuality is sacred as well
and that’s why we make a choice that same way I said you will help me if you
will tell me why you treat race as sacred and desacralized sexuality she
was very quiet she said I’ve never thought of it in those terms here’s what
I want to say view marriage as God has given it to us and if you take the whole
corpus of the world view is the most sacred relationship into which you will
enter because love is given one word in English but there are four words in the
Greek agape eros storge and agape filler Oh storge and eros agape is God’s love
filler who is friendship love or brotherly love story is protective love
of parental love eros is romantic love I said do you realize marriage is the only
one that pulls these four together agape Follette Oh storge and eros I said
and if you take agape out of that eros is gone for whatever you want to do
romantic love becomes redefined and to us the Bible gives the sacredness of
marriage as Christ is to the church the bridegroom and the bride and in that
sacredness the beauty of a consummate relationship between a man and a woman
as it is shown in the singular commitment of the marital vow I do
I will when you say I do to the one you say I don’t do all of the others and you
say I will to one you’re saying I won’t to all of the others so any departure
from that beauty and sacredness of the four confluences of love is a biblical
notion of what it really means to be married and to just take one behavior
and make it look like it’s aberrant is not right all departures from that are
not acceptable in the sight of God the theological position is a consummate
relationship between a man and a woman in the procreative Act and in the
sacredness and paying each other the ultimate compliment of taking each other
at their word so theologically this is the way we see
it sociologically we’ve been put into a conundrum so we come then in
relationally how do we deal with it and here’s the hard part but you know what
and my wife will tell you this others will tell you this who know me I accept
people with a love and a genuineness regardless of what their view is on
anything if it’s different to mine I have learned to love humanity I can put
my arm around a person who has a different view on marriage or a
different view on politics of water and just say you know God gives you the most
sacred Drifter gift of the prerogative of choice but God does not give you the
privilege of determining a different outcome to what the choice will entail
the consequences are bound to the choice and you go right back to the book of
Genesis and it tells you you do what is right will not you will you not be
accepted but if you don’t sin stalks a veil at the door desires to have you and
so when I look at the sacredness of marriage any change from it from the
biblical point of view is a departure from the biblical mandate but at the
same time the Bible commands us to love even those with whom we disagree and our
responsibility as the church is never to eight the individual our privilege is to
love and only God can change the heart of a person and God is the ultimate
judge and anaplerotic society let us as Christians be both light salt
and learn to love one another and let God be the judge over all of us he is
the one who is pure in his judgments we can make errors those are the three
panels I want to leave with you

100 comments

  1. Ezekiel 16:49 "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy." The secret Gospel of Mark makes it pretty clear Jesus was okay with gay. People used the Bible to discriminate against blacks. I'm guessing his wife is beyond the age of procreation, so by his definition they can not have sex. There are 3,000 gods throughout recorded history and probably many unrecorded. He doesn't believe in 2,999 because he knows they were just made up by people to explain things they couldn't understand or used too control others or gain wealth. His God is no different from the rest. The Catholic Church is worth over $10 billion, Masjid Al Haram $100 billion, Latter Day Saints $67 billion, Scientology $2 billion, Church of England $7.8 billion. Billy Graham was worth $25 million, Joel Osteen $40 million and Kenneth Copeland $760 million. And Jesus said it is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God… Religion is and always will be a con. There is a sucker born every minute. Don't be one.

  2. Ill never understand or agree with homosexuality.. especially as a man and the weakness i have for women. How could you want a man when GOD gave you the perfect companion…?

  3. What is this love love love at 10:53 and not opposing what is abominable to Elohim. We must judge righteously. We can not drink the cup of Elohim and the cup of demons. If I do not put my father and mother before Christ let alone will I place the idea of a sinner before Elohim. If you are of the world then you’re an enemy of my Father and if you’re an enemy of my Father who is in a heaven, you’re an enemy of mine. I love each person equally but as my my Father does, I hate the sins. Until you’re broken, repent and beg for forgiveness while accepting Yeshua as your savior. You will not have my Father’s love and mercy. Those who are truly of Christ are not here to accept everyone who are stuck in there own idolatry and selfish abominable ways. But if you seek comfort, true love and peace then leave everything behind, pick up your cross and follow he whom I’m not worthy of. May this message reach the lost sheeps. Grace and Peace.

  4. he is lying about iran and dictatorship of mullahs… he knows nothing about islam ! I am ready to meet him and he must prove me the mullahs dictatorship

  5. So there is no doubt that homosexuality is a piggish lust for the same flesh but does God torture the homosexual forever in the lake of fire?
    Absolute, 100% hog wash.. Sometimes I wonder if the bible wasn't written by Satan.

  6. Being a follower of Jesus means willingly paying the price and the cost of discipleship and that means dying to ourselves daily and allowing the word of God to dictate our lives and character, we don't get to make the rules the Bible is our Law, it is God's will written for us and in it it clearly says what sin is and homosexuality is one of the many sins stated in the word of God. Now being tempted is not a sin we all are tempted in many different ways satan is our enemy and he will continue his attack on us. So i may be tempted to steal, or to lie ect as long as i don't act upon it or go thru with it im fine my job is to present to God my struggles and to stay close to him knowing that He is there all the way with us and that He lives in us thru the Holy Spirit now if i happen to fall and commit sin we have an advocate to the Father Jesus and his blood is sufficient to clean and forgive us our sins. Now to live openly as a homosexual or lesbian after knowing the truth or to continue to live a sinful life and expecting God to take me as i want to be it will grieve the Holy Spirit and i will lose my salvation. Living a sinful life is simply not acceptable to God.

  7. It is not a sin to be gay, since you cannot control the matter. It’s ignorant preachers like this fellow Ravi that make it so. God does not punish a person for being gay.

  8. He has really thought this out. He describes society very accurately. Ive had friends and family who are gay. And I judge them on their actions and character and I try not to listen to Media or church propaganda. These issues with gays lesbians Etc have been around for centuries. He's very good at describing these issues. Very intellectual. And in today's society I've noticed that marriage is just a potential, expensive divorce, not for all but for quite a few. I understand things don't always work out my own parents divorced so i know.

  9. I just laughed out loud after reading some of the "so called" believers as well as the "so called" atheists comments in this thread. Dr. Ravi just shut a lot of people down; the hetero and homo. This man just stated that theologically there are 4 definitions of love within marriage as ordained by God and if one of those parts are voided, then no matter who you are as two individuals in a lawful marriage, the whole marriage is voided in God's eyes. LMAO!!! How many parts are missing from your marriage???? LMAO!!! Makes you wonder, why do some people even get married…???

  10. Wait, so, is he saying ALL sexuality is sacred and that's why a few Christians dislike homosexuality or is he grouping all sexuality and saying its all the same or is he saying everyone should just keep to themselves and not hate?

    Edit: this man is the most loving man I've seen debate something my god

  11. Our Heart Functioning Birth to Death with No Rest,But Very, Very Fast,The Evil thing & Thought Entering to your Heart Very Easy,But,God Sends Someone to Knock your Heart !, It get Cleaned In Seconds.What a great job Bro.Ravi,God bless you.

  12. NOUS Misulmans nous croient que ces ALLAH DIEU de l'univers qui dicte ce qui bon pour nous ou mauvais pour nous le reste de nos imames suive ce que ALLAH dicte a sa creation lui qui connais nos faiblesse nous somme fiere que dieu le createur le" seul dieu du monde sans associeé avec lui nous eduque et nous dicte ce qui nous dicte bien venue a la diction de ALLAH ET le Coran ces sa diction pas la diction des homme vous etes perdu car celui qui associe un dieu avec ALLAH DIEU ET UN etre perdu dieu a le monopole de la creation le monde lui appartien a lui seul pas de dieu ni fils fille qui pretende etre dieu avec dieu l'islame ces l'unité absolut autrement votre trinité n'est que polytheisme vous suiver pas le monotheisme absolut dieu n'a pas de fils unique il a tous l'univers et ce qui contien pas besoin de fils et de la nous somme des ennemie nous resteron ennemie sur cette difinition de dieu et seul de jugement de dieu qui tranchera de jour de la resurection tous trinitaire tous polyteiste sera avec le troupeaux de satan ce troupeau qui sera poussée au fond de l'enfer a la grande satistaction de satan vote dieu puisque vous defier dieu et lui fourber un etre une creature avec lui au rand de divignité jesus et innocent de vos dir il n'a jamais prenoncee le mot je suis un dieu avec dieu dieu est un jesus n'est qu'un prophete parmis les prophete l'islame lui donne ce titre honorable mais jamais jesus n'est dieu ceci est une invention de satan vous avais choisi la voie du polytheisme en declaran que dieu et trinitaire

  13. The answer he gave the women is bs he asked her to put race and sexuality in the same scale. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with race or ethnicity

  14. Sexuality and race are completely different one is a trait and one is a choice. Life is never promised to be easy.

  15. GOD SENT JESUS TO SAVE THE SINNER FROM HELL.
    WHY DO YOU THINK HE DESTROYED SODOM AND GOMORRAH? HE MADE ADAM
    AND EVE, NOT ADAM AND STEVE. JOHN 3:16

  16. Father God doesn't support gay life styles EITHER!!
    BEST WAKE UP!!
    REPENT
    TURN AWAY FROM YOUR SINS,
    TURN BACK TO GOD!!
    GOD WILL NOT TOLERATE IT!!
    BUT THE DEVIL SATAN WILL, THATS WHO THEY FOLLOW..AND THEY ARE THE HOMOSEXUAL!!!
    GOD DIDN'T CREATE MAN TO LAY WITH MAN.
    HE CREATED MAN TO LEAVE HIS MOTHER AND BE WITH HIS WIFE ( FEMALE). AND CLEAVE TO HER!!
    GOD TOLD ADAM AND EVE TO REPLENISH THE EARTH..
    HOMOSEXUAL PEOPLE CAN'T HAVE OFFSPRING LIKE FATHER GOD ,INTENDED!!!

  17. The problem here is Christianity. You will only fine the word Christian/(s) mentioned 3 times in the Bible. Jesus never did said go and make Christians, he said go and make disciples. The word disciple/(s) is mention 273 times. disciple is G3100-3103.

  18. Please be brave
    Jesus might be gay
    He hears your fantasies you Know.
    That sort of thing
    Is hard to ignore
    Oh…
    No pun intended. 😛
    I forgive the heroin
    The weed and the sin
    So here's my prayer for you
    Please Forgive me
    My Sin was Three
    And in exchange, well
    Here you go.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjCXxPiVUgc

  19. Born Again Christians are never hateful of any person. We, just as God hate the sin but we love the sinner. Anti God / anti Christians throw accusations just so as to vilify Good, God Fearing People.

  20. First of all, it's not a popularity contest.  It's not a vote.  It's not mob rule.  It's not man to define righteousness and wickedness.  It's a living GOD.

  21. 'Due to my ignorance and illiteracy I'm intimidated and disgusted by homosexuals. Where can I find a group agreeing with me?'. Ta-da.

  22. Christians have used the Bible to justify slavery and extreme racism. Nazis quoted bible versus in regards to the holocuast

  23. No. That’s a Vatican or liberal like view Ravi. It’s cowardly and that is why the LGBT agenda has gained so much ground in world society.
    Homosexuality/LGBT’ism is an abomination in the eyes of God. Period. Paul for one said quite frankly to disassociate ourselves from them which equates to complete non-acceptance and a continuing reinforcement of a message of shame and guilt which had kept the LGBT in the closet for close to 2000 years.

    Now as is evidenced and demonstrated by Ravi there is a hesitancy of Christian responsibility by leadership to condemn the LGBT as our Heavenly Father does.

    A lot of $10 words by Ravi used to excuse and hide his cowardice. LGBT is immoral and a Godless Satanic choice of denying God. That is what needs to be said and Ravi is afraid to voice it.

  24. My support for the homosexual lifestyle ended when they became political and attacked the family, father, mother and child. Since, I have walked away even further not because of faith but the obvious purpose behind the gay agenda, destruction of Christianity. Then it became an issue of faith, and I do not support nor accept any abhorrent lifestyle. Heterosexual lifestyle is the only acceptable lifestyle, no other.

  25. If you look at Christianity it's a homonogus culture.. We atheist have moved it away from the previous way of Christianity that was a thought police..

  26. When your religion hates a group of people it's time to question the religion. When did you decided to be straight? You think people choose to be gay? Lol no one would ever choose to be gay.

  27. The title page of The Book of Mormon

    The Book of Mormon
    An Account Written by the Hand of Mormon upon Plates Taken from the Plates of Nephi

    Wherefore, it is an abridgment of the record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites—Written to the Lamanites, who are a remnant of the house of Israel; and also to Jew and Gentile—Written by way of commandment, and also by the spirit of prophecy and of revelation—Written and sealed up, and hid up unto the Lord, that they might not be destroyed—To come forth by the gift and power of God unto the interpretation thereof—Sealed by the hand of Moroni, and hid up unto the Lord, to come forth in due time by way of the Gentile—The interpretation thereof by the gift of God.
    An abridgment taken from the Book of Ether also, which is a record of the people of Jared, who were scattered at the time the Lord confounded the language of the people, when they were building a tower to get to heaven—Which is to show unto the remnant of the house of Israel what great things the Lord hath done for their fathers; and that they may know the covenants of the Lord, that they are not cast off forever—And also to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God, manifesting himself unto all nations—And now, if there are faults they are the mistakes of men; wherefore, condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the judgment-seat of Christ.

    Translated by Joseph Smith, Jun.
    Www.comeuntochrist.org

  28. The Tanakh is immoral pigshit made up by some stupid bronze age goat herders.

    “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.”(Leviticus 20:13)

    That plain murder! Just for being normal.

    .

  29. My view is the Bible's view… homosexuality/lesbianism is an abomination (Lev. 18:22), shameful, unnatural, and not fitting (Romans 1:26-28), and anyone that approves of homosexuality (or lebianism) and those that practice such things are worthy of death, including those people that approve of those that practice them (Roman 1:32). This is not a judging from me, but a warning from the only God of this universe.

  30. Mormon theology is massively flawed. They think they need another book to go along with the Word of God. Anything perfect dosn't need anything added to it. To do so with something means it "lacks" and is "missing" something which spits in the face of our Father who says His Word is perfect, not lacking anything.

  31. He said race is sacred. There is just one human race. No multiple races. We use ethnicities to specify their physical traits (due to climate). Genesis covers this perfectly well.

  32. Sounds good … but lie after lie. God is holiness and condemns sin. because of them they will be condemned … repent of your evil ways. What he thinks are not thoughts of the Lord. better than he says in his word?..

  33. I love this guy, but I disagree with love in my heart. God created these homosexuals. They deserve to love and to be together if they want as long as they don't hurt anyone. I don't believe Jesus would be against homosexuality. Sex, marriage, etc is all sacred, but why isn't homosexuality as sacred?

  34. Ah oh, Jesus didn't have any kids. What does that make him? Ah oh, the Christians cherry picked lines from the Jewish prophets to try and prove Jesus was the messiah. If one reads the very next lines of these prophesies, it has nothing to do with Jesus. The claim Jesus was related to King David is false. A virgin birth ends that, and Mary is not related to David either, and NEVER is the word virgin ever used in the Torah. The word used is young maiden. In Hebrew, virgin a different word. The Christian religion is baseless, and that's why it is cursed. Everywhere the Christians have spread there teachings, disaster has followed with war, famine, hatred, emotional difficulties, unhappiness. Christians believe they are saved no matter how many bad deeds they keep doing after becoming a Christians. They are dangerous people.

  35. Joshua Hendricks is that all you can say with your hateful mouth may G-d curse your house for being hateful and full of pride you are blind and a fool why must you worship a false teaching craig D got your ignorant bigoted ass on the ropes and you cannot refute what the original biblical texts says and you are salty asf right now too but who cares about your so-called moral code because you have no morals because if you had any you wouldn’t be judging others wrongly G-d will punish you for your hatred you have in your heart for your brethren you make me sick to my stomach you are no christian you are nothing but a spy for your father shaitan now be gone with your evil i rebuke you in the name of the prophets and in the name of G-d get thee hence shaitan’ s spawn crawl back into the darkness from whence you came.

  36. Homosexuality is not a "Social issue of our time" and it is not a "Lifestyle that has come about in our time." Homosexuality has existed for thousands of years, since Ancient times. So has marriage. Thousands of years of history defined marriage as a legal contract where the man was head of the wife and the wife became part of his personal property and had to obey her husband. Women could not refuse a man's sexual demands and she could not obtain a divorce without his permission. Let's not go into wife beatings as well. Are we now going backwards or moving forward? The biggest threats to traditional marriage are from: 1) Divorce, 2) De facto relationships, 3) Wife beatings, 4) Rape, 5) Adultery, 6) Teenage pregnancies and Abortions, 7) Arranged marriages, 8) Dowries, 9) Forced marriages of virgin girls to old men, and 10) Young girls being sold as sex slaves to dirty old men. All heterosexual problems. I wish people would stop using gay people as soft targets and start worrying about their own life.

  37. I love it how he preach at last part. It was a meaty message.
    Ravi is one of the few persons the bible says "a workman needed not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of Truth".

  38. How the brain process a belief using physics mathematics and chemistry to explain it
    How the process of sin forgiving is processed in the brain

  39. Interesting how Christians stand firm on the verse forbidding homosexuality, but where Jesus commands every follower to sell all their possessions and follow him is considered only a metaphor.

  40. If you are a bigot and hateful because you don't believe what a certain group believes, why aren't they not also bigots and hateful for not believing what you believe?

  41. Jesus kept me from believing that homosexual nonsense when I was 13 he is been a crutch for me all my life. But then was one of his greatest works in my life.

  42. What about the society that is based on logic and reason….? That is neither God/religion, "other" law, or self law… The Natural Law Theory is very different than a God law. Some would even go as far as to say that the heteronomous law is inclusive of religion as opposed to the religion being a part of the theonomous. But I agree, autonomous is more hazardous, but must be where we begin.

  43. Further, I'm gonna make the assumption that the reporter in this story was either a member of the LGBTQ community or an ally and felt a stronger connection to sexuality than to race. I imagine the reporter was not a person of color nor an "ally" of people of color. (And if being an ally of a person of color doesn't make sense to you, jump in a time machine and go back about 60 years and then it should make perfect sense how you can be an ally of a person of color. ) But additionally, I'm confused how the reporter made sexuality not sacred… Im confused how Zacharias contends that the two are sacred if on one hand there is a master sexuality while on the other hand all races are valued….they can't both be sacred if there are different rules for them. A sacred care for sexuality and race would require consistency- all sexualities are a gift as all races as a gift!

  44. Finally, marriage is not a Christian institution. Marriage is bigger than Christianity. I hate how (we) Christians assume to have the corner or marriage. How arrogant are we to take such a position!

  45. THE SELFLESSLY LOVING YAHUWAH ELOHIM – the One and Only True Deity, having created all things – have given the gift of procreation only unto the people of the Earth, and gave instructions to both Adam and Eve our first parents, this instruction: "And Yahuwah Elohim caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 
    22:  And the rib, which Yahuwah Elohim had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23:  And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24:  THEREFORE SHALL A MAN LEAVE HIS FATHER AND HIS MOTHER, AND SHALL CLEAVE UNTO HIS WIFE: AND THEY [Husband & Wife] SHALL BE ONE FLESH. 25: AND THEY WERE BOTH NAKED, THE MAN AND HIS WIFE, AND WERE NOT ASHAMED [Being naked while in the very Presence of Elohim, brought no shame from humanity nor divinity]" (Genesis 2: 21 – 25, KJV, emphasis, Name changes and inserts in brackets, mine). I would you in the here and now understand fully, humanity following only these instructions concerning sexual love between a man and a woman who have asked Yahuwah to bless their loving relationship, is the only time when standing before Yahuwah, there is no shame nor remorse! I will elongage in adding, when any other two, or three, or same sex relationship, stand before the Creator, THERE IS WITHIN humanity, great shame! This shame that always remains, regardless of the ingestion of alcohol or drugs or whatever that shame will depart before the Presence of Yahuwah, NEVER WILL change the matter of sinfulness, which is a direct movement away from the commands of the Living Elohim!

    People due to their emotions and feelings about a matter, will try to prove the Creator is incorrect in Their commands, but this cannot ever disprove the SHAME they experience when they sin before Them, time and time again! As a matter of fact, there is the addition of other sexual partners within both males and females who have promised to be faithful to their marital vows in same sex marriages, their shame will drive them to more shameful sexual adventures, in the hope these shall negate the feelings that just will not go away, even though they believe they are normal in their same sex attraction, not only is there an addition of partners within such relationships, but as this kind of life is so absolutely AGAINST the all-knowing will of Elohim, in speaking of the Decalogue, i.e. the Ten Commandments, James makes this statement, which I have found in my life to also be the truth of the matter in all things:

    "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all [i.e. guilty of having broken the entirety of the Ten Commandments]. 11:  For he that said [And Father Yahuwah also WROTE WITH HIS OWN FINGER upon tables of stone, while atop the Mount Sinai], Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12:  So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty [i.e. judged by that Law given of Yahuwah unto His sentient creatures of Earth, that LAWFULNESS transcribed, in order to bring True Liberty into the lives of Their human creatures, eternally! Thus, in our breaking of anything of the Decalogue, humanity CANNOT FIND TRUE LIBERTY, which alone has the ability to bring Righteous Living and Eternal Freedom into their lives!]" (James 2: 10 – 12, KJV, emphasis, Name changes, and inserts in brackets, mine).

    in this our world, UNLESS WE WALK IN SELFLESS LOVE TOWARDS ALL OTHERS, we cannot keep the entirety of the Decalogue, and unless we keep the entirety of the Decalogue, we cannot constantly live in agapé – selfless – love!! All of those who carry placards and march in groups to tell the world same-sex marriage and homosexual interactions are amazingly good, KNOW IN THEIR HEART OF HEARTS, they are lying to the whole world! Many have chosen to try same sex interactions, to hopefully find THAT THIS change would make them truly know a free and joyous change within their lives, although having initially felt an amazing & powerful feeling which for many makes them feel, "This is what I have sought after my whole life!" over but weeks to months, feel they are more downcast about life in general than EVER before!! Why is this? Because only in obedience to the societal instruction of our Creators – Father Yahuwah created all things, through His Son, the Master Yahushua HaMashiach – IS THERE THE ASSURANCE OF FINDING TRUE LIBERTY! In disobeying another of the Commandments, and in a different manner than ever before, there arises the realization usually very hard to shake: The only Way to True Liberty – and which will even the blessing of Life Eternal, which increases over all the future time of eternity – never decreasing – is you must live by the instructions of your Creators, else life without continual lawfulness, ALWAYS involves great unhappiness and shame!

    These dear people who for any of a number of reasons have come under the deep and dark spell of the L G B T Q Community, ALL intrinsically understand their propaganda is really a great lie, but if they report this to the world, they are afraid they will bring enemies forth from their own community of friends and deceivers! This is a very clear message which I write, but I would you know, I write with great selfless love for this community, because the first thing Haylale – the devil and adversary of all of humanity – ensures as he uses various strategies to keep the hook in your mouth as a proponent of lies and evil for your own unhappiness and eventual destruction, is either emotional ties to many, or else, get you so out of your mind with drugs, drink, or a combination of both, he then leads you to do something that will condemn you in the eyes of most all the earth, and he ensures this evidence is locked away, so that you are thereafter his very own property, so that as one of his insiders, you CAN NEVER TELL THE TRUTH you have learned about tis or that organization you have been fooled into becoming a member of. You then will either HAVE TO LIVE a seriously corrupt and hopelessly unhappy life, or if you leave it, or desire to tell the truth about what's at stake should YOU desire to follow your baby-steps, you will become so hated on the earth, you will eventually die possibly by your own hand, because by then you feel you live in hell on Earth! We see important and well-thought-of people who should be living in joy and love if not for their good looks and total lack of monetary problems, killing themselves or else found dead, all the time now! It due to the closeness of the hour of the Second Coming of the Master Yahushua Messiah, which is so very close to this night of the 5th day of September, 2019. Please reread, and pray about these things, as prophesy is being fulfilled before our very eyes more and more often with every passing day now! I do greatly love all peoples; however, one can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink! We have a Loving God, and He loves you and yours, and will heal you from all, if you ask in the name of Yahushua HaMashiach, Awmayne. HalleluYah!

  46. the stupid donlkey hasn't a clue about islam, nobody dictates tom us, we follow the Quran and not the mullah, this hindu idiot is misguided

  47. So who imposes birth control laws and condemns licencious expression and drug control in society if it's autonomy and not heterogeneity that is in action ??

    No society except those who vouch for anarchy can truly be autonomous in the 100% connotation of the literal implication of that word.

  48. Apostle Paul, lovingly, summed up the matter in a few sentences. What is Ravi's slothfulness all about? There is no more of a loving way to deliver the Gospel than to say it as it is written. Quit all of this tiptoeing around and kidgloving about the issue. No one is getting saved with this crap of pseudopreaching. Let truth stand on its own. These popular contemporary so-called preachers are practically USELESS!!! They are too worried about being LIKED by men that they ignore God. What a bunch of saps.

    God don't need us, we need Him. Heaven will be just fine without any of us. So, preach the Gospel as it is meant to be preached. Heaven is an opportunity, not a mandate. Trust me when I say that if you don't make it, YOU WON'T BE MISSED!!!

  49. Now contrast Ravi's delivery of a mandate to men with how God delivers a mandate to men:

    Genesis 2:
    16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
    17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

    God gives no explanation of why it is forbidden, just don't do it because I said don't do it. A very simple and economical approach. No fancy words. No soft gestures or subtleties. Just if you disobey, you die.

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