Board of County Commissioners Open Session, Thursday, June 13, 2019

Board of County Commissioners Open Session, Thursday, June 13, 2019


first D June the 13th and a little bit
of rain but it supposed to be a nice weekend so we’re in that summer pattern
now believe we’re gonna rise for the Pledge and when we do we asked if also
you would join us we’re going to have a moment of silence certainly keep all of
those in public safety and those in our armed forces in your thoughts I pledge
allegiance student Ladd of the United States of America and to the Republic
for which it stands one nation under god indivisible thank you okay priority Carol we’ve got
a young lady with us this morning but before we do that I’ll scoot down
amongst the four of us to see if we have anything you want I got a couple quick
things one again publicly appreciation to our
team our staff put together the education forum we had the other night
again I believe in that listen learn lead approach and it gave us an
opportunity to listen to some experts to learn from what they had to share from
our community as we continue to listen learn from them in making decisions in
regard our government but kudos to our our team in in packaging that together
along with the Community College for hosting it at the venue second is a
early happy birthday to our US Army in 1775 On June 14th it was created so
we’re going through a birthday it’s also Flag Day for our country so tomorrow is
the army birthday and Flag Day and then last just wishing everyone that
celebrates a very Happy Father’s Day to my colleagues and those that are out
there on Sunday so happy Father’s Day to y’all you’re not our son wants to be okay if I may first of all I just want
to I guess to the Carroll County Times kudos for the neighborhood section for
the seven Eagle Scouts that were awarded from the one troop and you did publish
that and I guess it goes back to the fact that we have a lot of young people
doing a lot of good things Eagle Scouts I’ve attended many of them one I just
attended Saturday Joseph Sirocco at Emory United Methodist Church with troop
9 is the 7 72nd I think Eagle Scout from that troop and it’s unbelievable but you
know I’ve handed brochures like I just did here to the our new reporter and it
never gets in the paper but you know if he’d have done something criminal he’d
be on the front page but doing something right
we need to recognize what young people are doing in a positive format that we
get so much negativity so I hope this goes through but I just wanted to
recognize him for what he did and he started a whole upgraded Charlotte’s
quest in Manchester doing the Nature Center they’re revitalizing it and now
he has a whole group of future equal Scouts working to continue along that so
I just want to say thank you and I hope we can get some positive publicity for
that and we’re gonna have some positive publicity here in a few minutes for
another young lady who did something outstanding so I think we want to keep
this as positive as we can and that people know what the young people were
capable of like to reiterate Commissioner Rothstein’s comments about
the educational forum on Tuesday night it was originally commissioner Ross
Dean’s idea to do that educational forum and he was spot on I think key is
education appreciate what the college did hosting it I appreciate her staff
putting that event together it took a lot to pull it together it was very
successful also like to show my appreciation to the press for covering
it and participating in this education process that we as a board are going
through and also our constituents also remind people that throughout the summer
it is the carnival season for a fire department so make sure you go out there
and you patronize your carnivals at your local fire department and even the ones
that aren’t your local fire departments do the circuit some people try to catch
all the fire departments so make that a goal and support all your fire
departments so thank you very much Tony challenge this week there you go just a few things for me I’d like to say
a big thank you to those that were responsible for food trucks Sunday on at
the Farm Museum what a fantastic event and the weather
held out there were estimated about 5,000 people that came through there as
a matter of fact several the food trucks ran out of food which is not a good
thing if you’re a food truck but it is a good thing if you look at it on the
other side so kudos to all that were responsible for that
I know Bonnie Bonnie stop is instrumental in putting a lot of those
things together and certainly Jack wyvern Joanne went and gonna miss
somebody but did anyway thank you for everybody that did that we had a highway
safety seminar yesterday here in Carroll very well attended and they’re coming up
with a highway safety plan here for us that I think is long overdue
I talked to what Chris was not knots and always have trouble Chris’s name was
primary on that and I and it was a good event and I talked to
him yesterday afternoon late and he said they’re well on a way to come up with a
good plan so a lot of great ideas in that room so I want to thank everyone
that attended there a little bit on that theme yesterday we were all a little bit
surprised I guess when our president of the volunteer emergency service
Association walked into the room as most of you know don fehr had a fight with a
chainsaw on a tree in which he lost but he ultimately has won now and that’s as
a result of Shock Trauma as we watch listen and see what’s going on with the
UMMS system I want to remind folks that Shock Trauma is unlike anything in the
world and we are so lucky to live in the area that we do Don looks phenomenal
just three weeks out from being treated at Shock Trauma so I want to say kudos
to everyone that’s involved there I was at their board meeting on Tuesday
certainly there’s been a little ton of negative press but I want to remind
folks Shock Trauma is sort of over here on its own branch and we continue to be
blessed to have them and everything that they do
from the initial EMS response in lineboro to that golden hour that you
always hear about it’s remarkable that Don is where he is so I just want to
make sure everybody knows that Cape Horn Bridge is open that’s been closed for
how long dick six months least I think Doug is that what it is oh it’s been
longer yeah we’re in bringing in the walkers right lot of
detours the bog Turtles were actually out there with bars of soap one night
the rain bog Turtles you gotta love them anyway that’s open we did a press
release on that but I want to remind folks that it’s that you can roll right
through that area now so that’s huge and that was a good project thank you yeah
yeah well done on everybody there too so thank you
the water remind folks on the highway safety thing too it is summertime
Commissioner Boucher mentioned that brings a whole different aspect of
outdoor activities wandering mind folks to be mindful and be aware of your
surroundings and be careful on our roads it it’s it’s always a challenge and it’s
not only about distracted driving and all the other things that go it’s about
everything else that that we see I pulled up and I shared this yesterday I
pulled up to the light at angler in 140 the other day and looked over as I
typically do and the young lady in the car next to me was brushing her hair
reading the paper and looking at her phone I’ve got a thing on my desk that
says really I wish I’d have had it with me
so please if it’s that important pull over
but let’s be safe in all of our summer activities on your theme mr. Weaver we
do have a young lady with us today and her parents and also her her instructor
at the career tech center mr. Hutchinson were glad to have all of you here
Brittany is Brittany why don’t you come up and then I’ll let you introduce
everybody I’ll let you introduce your parents but yeah right there’s fine
unless you want to come up and sit down and come up and sit down
we put you on that we can put you on right on the on the on the hotseat
yeah so yeah mom and dad why don’t you come up as well so Brittany is a rising
senior at the California University of Pennsylvania she’s also a winters high
school alum and Brittany has has done something that is unlike what we’ve seen
lately here and I want to I wanted to recognize her today because because of
her expertise in print media she is going to the WorldSkills competition in
Russia and in August and it that is is quite the accomplishment young lady and
we are very proud of you so and behind every fantastic student are good parents
as well so you introduced mom and dad and then just give us a little brief
synopsis of what where you’re at and where you’re going okay so this is my
mother Cindy white stone and this is my father Ken why didn’t I
so with this competition I originally competed at a national competition in
Louisville Kentucky where I received the gold medal at the high school level and
then I went back and competed again at the college level and ended up receiving
first place again so then I had the opportunity to apply for the WorldSkills
competition where it would be working on offset presses for this competition we
had to compete against another student and who selected two students and we had
to compete again in Louisville Kentucky at a head-to-head competition to decide
who would represent the United States and thankfully I was selected and now B
of representing America at the competition in Russia wow it’s
incredible so you’re going to what part of Russia again
Kazan Kazan yeah and for how long how long stick it’s about two weeks okay one
of what a remarkable opportunity we’d also like to recognize David Hutchinson
David you need to come up as well and but I’ll let you stay at that mic for
one minute now we’re gonna get you up front but
we want to also thank you because we have a tremendous a tremendous group of
teachers in Carroll County that do a remarkable job with their young people
and you are you sir are the perfect example of that so thank you and we
appreciate what you accomplished the career tech sector we have a couple yeah
so word I let you say a few words about that well originally when when I was
talking with Brittany she was planning to tell her story her story is
exceptional she started off just a I’ve known her for four years now five years
now and she came to my class very quiet and
I noticed right off the bat that she was interested in you know technical aspects
of design production basically because she was getting angry at the equipment
not the instructor the equipment okay I just want to make sure but I know that
she was very passionate about because she wanted to get it right she wanted to
do it with craftsmanship and skill and so everything that she’s ever done since
that point has been that level of passion and
you know application she she really takes it to the next level and she
didn’t she told you what’s called she goes to but the college she went to
before was in Florida and she transferred from there from Florida okay
to Central PA in the mountains okay the cold boot from Florida we got
it good good point but ever since that she’s not only been advancing her own
career but she’s been a model for a lot of young people who are entering the
clear they support she supports the students at the Tech Center now she
helps train them for future competitions she works with national committees on
helping students from all over the United States you know prepare for
competition and now of course being part of this international field she
eventually wants to support the world skills organization by advising them so
she’s got quite a career ahead of her and she makes all of us look wonderful
so we just are just want to thank her for that yeah thank you very much we
appreciate that in Brittney I hope folks focused on the fact that you are
representing not just Carroll not just the state of Maryland but the United
States which is remarkable so congratulations and very well done young
lady and to the parents very well done as well thank you all very much we’re
gonna get a photo op up here so anything else mom dad anything just I know you’re
proud scoot on in get nice and close I asked
you to look at my camera first and then I’ll let you take a picture – thank you congratulations good luck thank you very
been in the papers this was meant for social media all right
once again once again that’s awesome and thank you all very much have a great
summer and safe travels yep I said we want to see pictures oh yeah take photos
yeah okay that’s a testament to the quality of our Career and Technology
Center it is okay with that the first item on our agenda is a briefing by BGE
miss megan Eve’s top that eaves good morning County Administrator County
Commissioners thank you for having us this morning again good morning Megan Yves external
affairs manager with BG thank you for having us this morning just wanted to
quickly give you an update about BG if you’re not familiar VG is the leading
gas and electric provider in Maryland we’re gonna provide you some real-time
stats here for Carroll County I’m in Carroll County we have 60,000 electric
customers and approximately 16,000 gas customers and we also have 426 employees
that work for BG that live here in Carroll County VG is a 203 year old
company apologies Meghan how many employees living world 426 426 PG
employees that live in Carroll County ok we do my neighbors on the gas on the
gas side and he stops at my driveway and lights up the truck and we talk about
stuff all the time good you know we don’t even have any
guests out there and then nice rural area but we talk about oh oh yeah we
talk about that yeah I do want to talk about that personal note okay thanks
very much okay next on our agenda today talk a little bit more than BG because
we’re more than just pipes and wires and I kind of want to talk about some fun
stuff that we’re doing in the community cuz we’re doing a lot of great things so
I want to provide a little bit of some updates and opportunities about grants
available here in Carroll County a couple months ago we had a emergency
response and safety grants reception on Commissioner winds thank you for joining
us we had eight recipients of grants from Carroll County I’m sure you
recognize some of those familiar faces just a couple of the grants to mention
change of Westminster was awarded a grant so is the Carroll Community
College Foundation and also the Westminster Fire Department I’m doing a
lot of a lot of good stuff with that and Commissioner winds I can’t thank you
enough for your support and really pushing those grants throughout a lot of
the local fire departments and then also we celebrated our bright
idea teacher grants not so long ago miss Cheney from running Mead elementary
school she put in a grant for a very innovative technology for a smart
projector for her classroom our bright idea teacher grants really we tried to
support stem in the classroom and we know that teachers are sometimes really
stretched for resources and we’re trying to help them any way that we can so we
were really excited about that we have 37 grant recipients throughout all of
our jurisdictions and we’re hoping to double that next year she learned
everything from her father by the way moving on from that I think I heard he’s
the mother anyway this is actually a picture from last week I had the
opportunity to spend some time with the environmental club from Elmer Elmer
Wolfe elementary school their teachers put them to put together a wires down
challenge I won’t try out for Carol’s most talent here today and sing our
little jingle of the wires down that you may remember from a few years ago so our
wires down challenge not today maybe tomorrow anyway which we challenge
elementary schools to talk about wire down safety and they put together a
little video and they submit it and Elmer Wolfe I’m actually won the
thousand dollar gem award it was pretty excited to hear just some of the great
things that they’re doing a part of their club I think they’re having some
pilot programs how to be more sustainable with their trays and they’re
doing a lot of great things with their little parks and stuff outside of the
school so it’s really good to hear how excited they were and what they’re gonna
do with that thousand dollar grant and I have a pop quiz here for you this
morning um who knows what mercaptan is anybody
yeah do go for it good let’s say so it’s it’s
it’s what’s in propane clothes gas clothes so mercaptan is the agent that
we put in natural gas natural gas actually has you know oh it’s got a spot
on don’t say clothes clothes but the mercaptan gives the rotten odor smell so
then you can protect you can find a gas leak so what we do is we have the
captain mercaptan we created this superhero to try to do a little outreach
and education in our elementary and middle schools so every year we have the
captain mercaptan gas safety hero challenge and this year we had a comic
strip where children were able to draw a little a little caption and we’re really
looking and hoping that you can help us this year there’s a big opportunity to
have an award winner here in Carroll County that’s it’s an opportunity coming
up and what you’re saying is you need to re-educate Commissioner is what you say
I was close no matter how spot hey does anybody see the resemblance between
Captain mercaptan just just saying that’s the cap and smell bit but this is
a school program right then a good school program for all all elementary
schools in pencil and the schools can if they win they win money they can win up
to $10,000 for the school oh yeah so we we need to encourage the Board of
Education to participate in they encourage their teachers to participate
and and I would encourage my colleagues as well you touched on a little bit Meg
you know these grant awards these grants that are available through BGE
many times go untouched yes so you know when you’re out and about with the fire
departments and everybody else remind them that do that because it is it is
such a great program so I I reminded all the time and I think we’re getting a
little bit more now interest in that and lots of time it’s it’s because they just
they don’t want to be bothered with filling out the paperwork that’s what it
comes down to it man it’s so important to do that so I personally benefited at
the window I’ll tear fire department from two training programs that your
your agency sponsored for the fire department it’s always advocate the
citizens out there when your local fire department is offering these programs
such as treating a bleeding wound or narcan applications please take
advantage of it that these programs are made available thanks to BG thank you
and I know that we’re working with the county to do some training as far as on
what to do with wires down gas leaks that kind of stuff we’re working on some
training here within the county employees any any additional questions anything
that I can help answer no but thank you for the grants and believe me we’re
going to be looking at them much under microscope in the future great thank you next item girl thanks Megan
so next is the BG public-access electric vehicle charging program and
our Deputy Director of Public Works Doug Brown and I’ll let you do the uttering
other introductions so sincere with you Megan with the glasses come on
sorry committee well good morning commissioners and this morning before we
get started again you’ve already met Megan this morning I’ll let Christy if
you’d like to introduce yourself and your position my name is Kristy
Fleischmann gronke I am the manager of strategic programs for BGE and I’ll be
here to talk to you about Bee Gees electric vehicle program today thank you
and then I’m a deputy director with the part of Public Works commissioners this
morning we’re before you with some good news I believe and to brief you on the
is the installation of public access electrical vehicle charging stations at
County sites as Christy will go into B G and he has plans throughout their
territory to build I own and operate a network of 500 public access TV charging
stations and we want to bring it to your attention and hopefully gain your
cooperation in adding some of these to the county so without further ado I’ll
let Christie begin the presentation and operates that’s weird
my first slide so a little introduction of PC order eight eight nine nine seven
so it was a petition that was put together by VG e pH I and Potomac Edison
to offer electric vehicle charging infrastructure in Maryland to help
support the zero admissions goal that Maryland is a part of which has a goal
of reaching 300 thousand Evie’s on the road by 2025
right now Maryland has roughly just over twenty thousand Evie’s on the road so we
have a long way to go in the next five years from the twenty thousand to the
three hundred thousand so in support of that we are launching programs to raise
customer awareness also in Scent charger installations at home and multifamily
properties and as well as offer a reliable public charging throughout BG
service territory so an overview of what we’re providing from an infrastructure
investment and I’ll go into more details on each one on the next few slides but
we’ll be offering rebates for residential customers and then rebates
for multi-unit properties to address apartments and condo dwellers that don’t
have access to their own parking spot to be able to charge their electric
vehicles and then provide utility own infrastructure in areas where the
private market isn’t meeting the demands of the electric vehicles to help ease
range anxiety which is a common issue with adopt early adopters of electric
vehicles we will also be providing a new easy only time of use rate so that will
incentivize off-peak charging to help with any issues on our electric grid we
don’t want all the electric vehicles coming home at five o’clock and plugging
in and causing undue stress on our system we’ll also be providing a demand
credit to our public installations to help them adopt to the new
evie load that will be on their facility and we’re launching multiple customer
awareness campaigns in the next few weeks to support our program lunch so
more specifically the residential charging we’ll be providing a three
hundred dollar rebate for customers that purchase a home charger so those would
be installed either at in a garage or on your property where it would be a
residential graded meter we have one thousand rebates at this time to pay out
this program launches on July 1st and customers can apply for the rebate on
BGE comm slash electric vehicles the next slide is the multifamily program so
this one’s a little bit higher dollar value as those chargers and
installations are more costly so we’ll be providing a $5,000 rebate for level 2
per chargers which is a 240 volt charge and then up to $15,000 for a DC fast
charge so that’s where it’s about 50 kW charge and you can get a full charge in
about 20 to 30 minutes for a maximum award of $25,000 per site this is
similar to the residential program where after the customer purchases and
installs the charger they just apply for the rebate on BGE comm and then the
focus really of our presentation today is the e be charging utility own network
so this is for government sites specifically bgu will be installing 500
stations throughout our service territory the government sites will
apply with be GE just with the location address of where they’d like the
Chargers how many they’d like and approximately where in the parking lot
they would like those charters installed there this is no cost to the government
site BGE completely maintained operates and everything that may go
wrong with the electric vehicle charger is BG’s responsibility the only thing
the government site must provide is an easement to be able to access the
Chargers to maintain them properly one last note on there so the any electric
vehicle driver that comes to these charging stations would be charged a
rate to use the Chargers just like any other public charger out there so
electric vehicle drivers are used to this you would have a smartphone app
when you pull up to the charging station you initiate that charge session and
then you would be built a market-based rate that’s currently filed with the
Maryland Public Service Commission for approval and that’s what customers would
be charged for the third consumption on those charters wondering how that works
so you gotta have a smart phone or you gotta have it happen what are they do it
that’s how most people do it but we will also have a 1-800 number listed on the
charger so if you didn’t have the app or didn’t want the app you can call that
number and provide them a credit card number so this map was provided by Doug with
some different highlighted areas of where we’re looking to potentially put
Chargers in Carroll County so we have at this point and I did it’s a good good
time to bring it up so obviously as as you all know BGE does not cover the
entire Carroll County district so I did want to let you know that what you’re
seeing up here covers two sites each in our proposal
for district to district 3 and district 5 however we have already begun
conversations with potemkin Essen for district 1 in district 4 but I will tell
you they’re about a couple months behind from where VG is so at the point that
they’re ready we would come back at in front of you with their representative
and again do a briefing over there but I would say that we are actually we have
such a good relationship with Meaghan and our folks at BGE Christy and others
that if you all support this we could in fact be the first jurisdiction in
Maryland to to get these in from from the GE so that’s kind of where we’re at
but again this map shows a couple of sites in district 2 2 and district 3 and
2 and district 5 these are County owned sites and
particularly we look at things like the libraries senior centers and areas that
have 24/7 access and additionally here at the county government office building
so that for example someone could come here to the government hub they may have
some time to go to the courthouse they may go to the Board of Ed anywhere else
we’ll have a fast charger here they could do their business that might take
them 15-20 minutes and have a full charge to give somewhere else setting
right here at the county so that’s that’s the map what does a
charging station cost for say a private person and put it in somewhere so it
depends our business owner yeah so it depends on so for level two there’s two
different types DC fast chargers are far more expensive the average piece of
equipment alone for a DC fast charger is about thirty thousand dollars and then
depending on where the electric service is and where you need to run into that
could increase the cost quite significantly from their level two
chargers are about three thousand dollars so a lot less expensive and then
that would also any additional cost to run the service but they will help
offset that for for multi multi-unit dwellings for this program specifically
B G covers all the costs there’s no cost to the government sites so for me I mean
this is great and you know sometimes we say just because you can doesn’t mean
you should in this case we can and we should and being a first in the
community is a good thing so I appreciate the intent of getting our
cooperation the biggest concern in beyond the cooperation is to ensure that
we get the advocacy from the community to do this and highlight
the benefits of doing this that’s the next step I mean the cooperation putting
something in place is nice but if you start getting weeds growing around the
thing it becomes a blight and we don’t want that so how do we go from now
today’s step is getting the cooperation which you’re asking for but then coming
up with a business plan or a marketing plan to get the advocacy so we can
continue to highlight and share the potential uses of these and the value in
using these so that’s that’s the challenge to the next step sure you know
so for BG specifically we will be offering a ton of information on our on
our website to say where you can find B GE Chargers one issue with public
charging today is exactly that point that’s where
when they are installed they’re not often maintained so evey driver will go
you know a certain distance to get to a charger and then find that it’s not
operational vge is being held to the same reliability standards as our
electric distribution system so they must be operational at all times so
based on the amount of customer awareness and marketing that BGE plans
to do customers will have the sense of ease that they can go to a BGE charger
and that it will be working an operational further with that is that we
found in our discussions over the last few months particularly since we happen
to have an Eevee owner who has set with us to discuss
that those folks are very educated about their own charging stations that many of
them do their homework all of them do before they buy that car to see where
they can charge what they can do and we feel that the BGE reliability so most of
them now are as Christie mentioned are held privately they may or may not be
serviced but they’re going to be held to the same standard as your household or
our business which means people will know the reliability of those units and
then we’ll of course market them and we can market them on our government
website to say that we are evey charge friendly in Carroll County government
and you know I’m sure that Chris would put something on there as he does with
everything else which is that consumer awareness to to get folks where they
need to be potential we have 500 units coming into the BG&E area yes potential
for Carroll County is how many this is just the start I mean I’ve already got
you said there’s nothing in one but I’ve got a people a pretty good spot in one
that I think would be acceptable well the only thing we would we could
potentially have other sites and the issue is is that the sites that we place
these at need to have 24/7 365 access okay in order for them to be good for
the consumer we have run into the fact and again this would this is certainly
for further discussion and the six sites that we’ve initially located have that
we would have other potential sites however some of our parks which we
believe would be good sites are either signed that you’re not allowed in there
after dusk or they’re gated in a couple of cases particularly our you know we
had initially looked at our parks and I believe what what you’ve said we’ve also
looked at for example potentially the community center or other locations but
we have to make sure we can allow that 24/7 access which is why we’ve made the
first swipe with these things yeah and not that’s fine I understand that but I
also take it a step further and say I don’t know that anybody that’s driving
these things would go in at two o’clock in the morning to charge their car
they’re gonna do it when they come there for an event yes so I challenge you to
think outside the box a little bit the Sports Complex is the perfect spot camp
Nashua Bear branch and then the future Charles Carroll community center would
be a site two for one because I know a lot of the rest of my district is is PNE
yeah so and we can remember that in addition to the 50 sites that Christy
mentioned we also will have other sites available okay finish off that that that
is not inclusive okay I never pretend against and can bring to it but I will
tell you that we already have had those discussion okay um and we’re continuing
to look with BG&E of what those options may be just to make sure that the
customers use their solar-powered charging systems
are there are the other there in California they’ve been experimenting
with stuff like that that provide like a parking pavilion and on top of that
there is solar and then that fuels the charging stations space in this you know
in a lot of these situations could be an issue with putting in a whole solar
canopy and that isn’t really part of what this specific order with is with
the Commission it to provide that joint installation of solar and a charging
station but I think it’s definitely something that will evolve in the future
I’m just curious yep plug the work you’re doing and I
understand that this is just the beginning of locations this is not a
final and that’s what you’re moving towards commissioners other locations
should be identified thinking outside the box chain of opportunities where
these stations would be most advantageous for our community so I’d
certainly like to hear that commissioners apologize to interrupt but
for any of you that have sites that you think would be advantageous definitely
get me an email and we’ll pull those sites up and see we can do with ya see
already got mine yes sir there’s a ton of traffic in that Sports Complex again
I understand the 24/7 access but I would take it a step further and again
reiterate that no one’s gonna go to the Sports Complex like midnight to charge
their car they’re gonna do it when they’re there for an event right side I
challenge you to maybe look away from that 24/7 access thing that was
something that the Maryland Public Service Commission had
in the order and I think it’s not so much that they would be so if you needed
a charge and you knew based on BG and reliability even though the Sports
Complex is closed as long as you could go there and get the charge that you
need that that’s the point yeah so as long as it’s not gated where you cannot
access the charger at all that that’s the issue
you know what the again excitement that Carroll County again leads the way in
these type of opportunities this is good news I’d like to make the motion that
the port commissioners authorize the Department of Public Works to apply for
evey charging stations with vge okay second you got a couple more you want to
just tip if just yeah when you go to next step okay we’ll keep that on the
table but yes but finish your presentation that’s fine so we’ll begin
accepting applications July 1st so we’re just getting out in front
letting the different counties in our territory know of this program so you
can start doing internal planning and approval so all of the work that we’ve
done with Doug so far to identify sites has been held bullies circle it
circulate that through our new business team to help pre plan for when our
program officially launches on July 1st the application will be made available
shortly and the government sites will submit that those couple pieces of
information identified the address the number of chargers and things like that
on BGE comm starting July 1st let’s just recap the benefits of the order so you
know providing that infrastructure to help increase EB adoption to help
Maryland meet the zero admissions goal of 2025 very good okay
any other questions or comments for these fine folks or their apps for
people to find the location yes I know this like the time we put them in parks
would it notify them not like they can’t access because it first
so the I just want to really quickly get most of our parks the only thing that is
up there is for there’s law abiding biting citizens of watch the signs it
just simply says no entry after dusk you know or something like
that we really have very few that are gated so I think we can get beyond most
of those other parks as long as the access is available and they’re not
gated and we can certainly look at creative ways to get in those parks that
that are all just wandering to say someone says oh there’s a location that
a parked yeah and they go there at ten o’clock at
night and it’s gate it and they’re low and then a gold yeah yeah right and
that’s the key that’s that’s what we’re gonna get but we care we certainly again
I think we can be out we have worked with both director- brief discussion
with him and also with our director of Carroll County Public Libraries and then
with our internal staff so we’re gonna work with all our partners to make sure
that that everybody is on board and good with anything any looking thank you
well that’s the beauty the Sports Complex which I continue to advocate for
because it they’re typically there till 11 o’clock at night great especially
during the summer months so the sports car must be a good sight thing yeah we
all we refer to it as the field of dreams because you know the lights are
on up there too you know anyway so alright I got a motion in second any
other discussion all in favor aye that unanimous thank you very much Thank You
committee guys very much appreciate thanks Meghan thank you BGE thank you
guys thank you okay next on the agenda is third quarter budget update and
request for transfer of funds from our department of management and budget have you seen mr. Zaleski all right well it says third
quarter update it’s a little a little bit more than that
now one sense we were we come in with an update we’re looking back to the end of
the last quarter which would have been end of March
obviously we’re well beyond the end of March so we’re gonna be talking more
really about what we see for the end of the year although we still don’t have
all the information for the end of the year and then about some ideas that
we’ll carry on into future years so looking ahead to the end of fiscal year
19 which is just a few weeks away as things stand we see revenues coming in
about $800,000 less than we budgeted and we’re gonna talk about this more in just
a minute expenditures coming in about seven and a
half million dollars less than what we budgeted so revenues revenues under
budget is a bad thing expenditures under budget is a good thing the combination
there would be about a six point seven million dollars that we would walk away
with at the end of the year now there’s already three point nine plan for fiscal
year 21 that’s that one percent that we always build into our plans so you take
that away from the six point seven that would leave us with 2.8 million dollars
that we would expect with what we know today to be available for future
commissioner decisions now back to the the revenues the biggest question mark as usual is
income tax we got the beginning of our last major distribution the first yeah
right we got our third distribution so we’re about three quarters of the way
through the year the rest of our income tax what we think of as our last fourth
quarter distribution actually comes in in several pieces so it takes longer for
us to see it than than the others but the most recent distribution was again a
disappointment one and a half percent growth over the same distribution last
year this follows now our first first distribution what we got for not
reconciling distributions but you know that what’s happening today kind of
thing was 5% growth the second one was minus 3.5% and now this third one was a
positive 1.5 percent so even if you’d never heard me talk about the
difficulties of projecting where we’re going anything in income tax with just
that information you can see what a pain this is trying to figure out where
you’re going you know plus five minus three point five plus one point five
what is the next distribution and I don’t have the answer to that but if it
comes in as budgeted we would end the year one point four million dollars
behind budget for the for the here and right now I can’t tell you with
any confidence that it is going to come in as as budgeted for the rest of the
year now that doesn’t mean it won’t doesn’t mean a can’t it doesn’t mean
that we might not see more don’t we budget that really is a possibility but
it’s also a possibility that we will get another 1.5 percent growth and end up
more than 1.4 million dollars behind so yeah and also an income tax you know
last year our basic major distributions I wouldn’t call strong but we’re pretty
good what hurt us last year was the reconciling distributions the results of
previous years this year were kind of flipped around the reconciling
distributions are propping up major distributions that are less than what
we’ve we’ve counted on and of course we’re told my income tax the big
question still on everybody’s mind is what about the federal tax changes and
what that’s going to mean for us what I can tell you is right now we haven’t
seen anything there’s there’s no noticeable impact to us that still
doesn’t mean that that impact isn’t coming but you might remember some of
you might remember about a year ago this time there was some interest in upping
our revenue injections in anticipation of that money coming so we’re sitting
here on a year later in it and it hasn’t come so I’m still not in a position to
tell you it’s not happening and the logic still seems to make sense changes
at the federal level level had this impact on state taxes which should have
this impact on local income tax I don’t have any argument why that doesn’t make
sense but still hasn’t gotten here the that the money is not flowing in in any
way that looks attributable to those changes now even looking ahead if that
money does start increasing our revenues a difficulty we’re faces it doesn’t come
labeled with here’s a dollar because of the federal tax changes so there could
be things that are happening over here in a negative way and positive because
of the tax changes all we see is that is the net how many dollars are coming so
it will remain difficult to know exactly what that is meant to us until some
years from now when we can look back at historical data recordation is also a
bit of a concern we’re figuring right now we’re gonna end the year about five
hundred thousand dollars below what we budgeted we went through probably four
years of recordation revenue climbing as we got past the worst of the recession
the last two years now have not been been climbing and actually one year was
down a bit and then they’re up again but you know we’re starting to think maybe
we’ve kind of leveled out where we’re going to be this is something you know
we’ve been talking about how high are we gonna go where does this start to level
out now it’s starting to look like maybe we’re getting the answer to that
question and then income on our investments we were seeing interest
rates rising which then flows into more revenue for us we started to think we
saw what was developing to be a series of moves every years that would take us
back to what we would typically think of as normal interest rates that slowed
down we saw things kind of level out and now
more recently we’ve heard some discussion at the Federal Reserve level
about maybe them decreasing rates now it’s not a nice neat correspondence what
they do and where we end up but it certainly is an indicator of you know
what our expectations would be so we are probably going to see our expectations
for investment income we’re gonna have to back off for those now of course none
of this talks about property tax revenue which is our biggest one we haven’t seen
any additional negative information there and it’s too early for us to try
and tell you what we think about 21 through 25 but given what we’re looking
at now it’s not hard for me to think that a year from now we’re gonna have to
come back again and say the revenue expectations that
we’ve we built into the plan are too high again too early to say that I’m
just it’s just kind of putting the thought out there so that when we do
come back further down the road it’s not the first time you’re hearing that we
have concerns about this so I think that pretty much is what I
wanted to leave you with you know kind of where we are what that might mean for
the future unless there’s something you’d like me to go into a little deeper
any questions okay what’s the what’s the timeline Ted on
this last part of the income tax do we know the last piece doesn’t come in
until early August yes such lovely timing I remember that from yeah
years past I just wanted to you know yeah and it’s you know it’s difficult
because not only have you adopted the budget for next year based on revenue
projections that we kind of need that information to to to make will actually
be two months into the next fiscal year before we’ve actually seen the seen the
end of it all okay well we’ll wait with bated breath
for August so one more time about that plus 5% minus three and a half percent
those were the the those were the first three big distributions of income tax
for the year and that’s house think as they compare against the same
distribution in the previous year is there any can you if you’ve got any
reason why it was such a spread from that was five to minus 1.5 I mean six
and a half percent spread it’s pretty dramatic and it can it can be worse than
that has been worse than it sometimes see this is the basic problem we have
with with income tax are only visibility is the money that’s coming in right the
money comes in based on a formula the state determines every November what
share of the pot Carroll County is is going to get yeah so as it’s coming in
we we don’t know why things are changing we don’t know if
it’s the right number in fact we know it’s not the right number that’s what
the reconciling distributions are for to say once it’s not just with Holdings and
estimated payments coming to the state but it’s tax returns and they start to
say okay Carroll County should be getting this much money then they start
saying well you got too much you got too little until we eventually get to where
it’s supposed to be takes three fiscal years to get rid of one one tax year and
well the state has a better picture statewide into what’s what’s going on
there is no good picture into what happens county by county and and the
basic problem is we don’t know who the money belongs to and to all the tax
returns are in this could be fixed if the state is willing to say everybody
who is sending in taxes so Carroll County government or Walmart or the
Maggie’s restaurant you can’t just send us with holdings you have to tell us
this withholding is better then that Effingham is withholding and she lives
in Carroll County then we would have better information but I think most
people would say that’s a that would be a burdensome arrangement and I don’t see
it as likely to happen so we’re stuck with the system we have it’s always been
a problem it’s become a bigger deal in recent years just because we have less
flexibility than he did so when it’s off it matters more so we spend a lot of
time agonizing over well why she invited a chance and
sometimes yeah it changes and and you struggle for even a possible reason well
what could have what could have made us make this change and the other thing we
struggled with is you know just the general feel you know unemployment is so
low you know the economy I mean you can argue it’s not consistent but I mean
there’s a lot of good things have if I just asked somebody who knew
nothing about how income tax comes in to us how would you think we’re doing I
think most people would say are you guys going to be doing good in income tax but
we’re not and it’s not just Carroll County this is this is across the state
so I wish I had better answers for you but adult is there a potential for a
solution and reform legislation and the distribution now as far as the
distribution goes you could come up with other ways of doing it and and the
comptroller’s office has been open historically to saying could we should
we do this in a different way and there have been discussions over the years the
problem is nobody has a methodology that would be better I mean each one would
come with its own own problems because they’re all built on this idea the money
is coming in and you don’t know who it belongs to
yet so well actually there is one way that would work very well if the state
didn’t give us any of the money until after all the tax returns are in the
money they sent to us we would know is the right money and what you were doing
that I guess that would be okay but there would be a horrible disruption
here a little bit lag period yeah so I don’t see that happening either
I’ll just wonder if there’s talk amongst individuals in your position coming out
with formulate some potential ideas it talked about for years and I think most
of us agree we don’t like the system we have but we don’t know what a better one
is I thought maybe you guys had this magic ball or you had a time
nope well think we don’t ok then also connected with year-end I have two
resolutions for you for Kushner’s Rothstein and Boucher you
have not been through this but every year we actually come to the
commissioners after the fiscal year is ended to get a series of transfers
approved the reason we do that is because we can’t fully close out the
books until the year is over so we have to come to you after the fact we’re
going to bring a couple things to you today that you can take care of so they
won’t be part of the pile of things that you see after the years already closed
and I just wanted to mention on this there are there are some things you will
approve after the fact that could in theory have been done earlier in the
year but there sometimes we choose not to ask you to make a transfer because we
want to wait to see how the work how the year is gonna play out you know there
might be a ten thousand dollar unplanned expenditure but some possibility that at
the end of the year ten thousand will be unspent and it’s not necessary for you
to make any transfer but we often find you know it’s worth waiting on those
things rather than you know trying to take care of everything as it comes up
ok so the first one I have for you is resolution Oh – nineteen point zero nine
this is connected to oppa other post-employment benefits its healthcare
for retirees this money was budgeted throughout the organization
without knowing the actual costs that are going to be attributed to each piece
of the organization and what we’re doing now is with full information saying
here’s all the changes we need to make in order to have the budgets and the
expenditures match up the end result of this is zero is a zero change to the
total budget it means nothing to the total picture it’s just making sure the
right dollars are in this budget and this budget and this budget next year
this won’t be the same the FY 2008 just adopted we actually budgeted all this
money in one place we’re gonna wait until we get all the information we need
to know how much goes to each budget and then come in to just do it all at once so what I need then would be for you to
approve this resolution to make this series of changes of the Board of County
Commissioners approve the operating budget resolution of 19.9 to be
appropriate out there to various operating budgets second any other
questions all right all in favor aye that’s
unanimous on that thank you the second one is resolution C 19 – I in
nineteen point eighteen there you have a spreadsheet attached to this this is
actually fifteen or so small capital transfers let say there was a time when
the budget office actually had the authority to make all but two of these
transfers I mean basically saying this is just an administrative getting
everything right not a policy decision on what to do with money we no longer
have that authority so we actually when we need to get your approval for this
six cents transfer on our one of our road projects what about that if at some
point the commissioners wanted to reconsider that we would definitely be
in favor of some modest latitude on being able to you know just tie up loose
ends the first to the sixth sense and the 19 cents are in connection with two
river projects the rest of them are the recompence elf help projects we have
projects that are completed and what this is doing is moving the money from
those individual projects back to the self-help but pot where at some point
you will again be approving its use for some new projects so we’re these some
over budget and it’s going back to where Excel fell yes is what you’re sharing
but these projects are complete through self-help and this is the leftover money
and can go back into self-help exactly fantastic okay all right honor taint emotional Natalie
I knew the Carroll County Board of Commissioners approve the capital budget
resolution see 19 point 18 to close capital projects second I could maybe pave a road with that 25
cents whatever you think you have to get the 19 and the 19 cents and the six
cents that way yeah right okay any other questions all in favor aye aye aye thank
you Jeff thank you thank you very much okay
briefing discussion on Charles Carroll Community Center project amendment Jeff
casting way and Eric for dime gentlemen good morning
morning commissioners so I’ll give you a brief update on where the Charles
Carroll to leave center project is we’ve completed the schematic design phase and
we’re in the development design phase as part of that phase we had to generate
what’s called a traffic brief and submit it to the State Highway Administration so we submitted at the state highways
and had a subsequent meeting with state highways and in that meeting they
discussed with us that our expectations for the need for traffic improvements at
the Charles Carroll Community Center entrance so a couple of their
improvements that they’ve asked us to do there is one two warning signs coming
from each direction letting you know that there’s a right turn or a left turn
whichever direction you’re coming from additionally the one in supplemental
plaques indicating that the Charles Carroll Community Center is good is
you’re approaching the Charles Carroll Community Center in the big one they’ve
asked us to provide them to concept plans one for a partial northbound
Maryland 97 deceleration lane and so that one’s that one would be 350 feet
and they’ve also asked us to provide them with a concept plan because cutting
us a little bit of a break for a partial northbound
Maryland 97 deceleration lane that will begin after the overhead utility pole
that is about 200 feet south of the project so at this time northbound
acceleration lane and a southbound left turn and a southbound bypass lane are
not anticipated to be required so today we’re funny to ask to move forward with
KCI who is our civil engineer on the project and they’re also a term
contractor with us we’d like to move Bulworth KCI to desert to provide those
concept plans for us and with those concept plans to also be
providing cost estimate for the construction of that turn lane so we’d
like to before with KCI in the amount of twenty three thousand six hundred
dollars okay our briefing paper says 1866 there was an ad ultimate that was
well attached to that proposal force that they have been all add alternative
stormwater management because there’s one pipe at the 350 foot length that
would have to be relocated in that relocation was what actually you have to
move that pipe southbound some distance on 97 Stu to facilitate the proper
drainage we feel it’s best at this point we’re asking for this to have them
evaluate any and everything with this turn lane this way we’re not sitting
back later on and having you know going to come to you
or follow or going to state high with a final decision we’re going with a piece
of information that could mean tens of thousands of dollars more to the
construction cost or estimates for that term late because this is just for the
evaluation of it this does not include the money that’s needed lot to come to
you later on whatever the final decision is I mean this could be hundreds of
thousands of dollars for the term Lane two minutes but we don’t want to exclude
that further discussion with KCI and Eric and I have had it’s best to include
the stormwater management at this time okay so you’re adding five to that well
that’s gonna be later on in the in the process is you know we’ve asked it
highway to see if they we can get any participation assistance from state
highway we’ve also looking to get some
assistance or relief from BGE but none of that has been determined yet
we don’t have a font you know this is this first step to figure out what what
will be impacted because we also planned acquisition would have to happen so we
need to figure out exactly what’s going to be impacted so we can go to those
sources and ask to see if we can get some length of assistance etc when we
get to the point of having to construct these lanes because of the high cost of
it and I will say where we are now as opposed to where we were before we had
the meeting with them and I want to thank my colleague Commissioner
Rothstein for being in that meeting with us we’re in a better place now because
the state is really working with us as best they can even to the degree and you
touched on it of attempting to find some funding for us that would allow because
remember all of this is on us to in order to and to to do what we need to do
infrastructure wise for that building to get there so so that’s why we are where
we are but we’re in a much a better place and I think the Commissioner
Rothstein you would agree with that now this 23:6 is just coming out of the
total package is that the way in which we decided to do this we’re not asking
for any additional monies or anything out of non deserves or anything this is
just debris to take this particular amount of money out of what’s already
been assigned to the project in order for this particular part that we didn’t
anticipate to be done yes so I want to make you all understand that this is not
additional monies now we may indeed have to come back at some point whenever but
I think we’ve had these discussions about our attempts
coming up with a legislation in order to try to offset some of these costs were
out there but we’re more to come on that but this is not additional money this is
this is coming out of the total package that’s already in place
we just need to specifically draw down on this particular project as a result
of what the state has asked us to do because the building is going to be
there acceleration the acceleration laying in not necessary I mean let me
let me preface it because I really do want to applaud one our team along with
Commissioner Wentz and the others within the county coming together with state
highway state highway administrator quakes later and along with John
Concannon who is our district lead from state highway joins us the other day and
we had real good dialogue the enthusiasm in the room to come to a good solution
for the ingress egress and it’s neither or to find that they must be done at
this point so there’s they’re looking at it right
now we we had the maps up we had screen shots up there physically going on the
ground both state highway our County folks to determine what is the best
solution to for ingress egress and I think we’ve we’ve come a long ways in a
very short period of time I think out of that this study is the is the next step
and that is to get KCI on the ground to look at it come back to us and then
determine whether ingress ingress routes are gonna be necessary which I do not
believe they will be that’s my I’ll say hope but that is the indications that I
see from the discussions yeah thoughts in respect to the to the
air to the to the engineers that initially looked at the project right
you know there’s this anticipation of for instance Eric you and I had said to
each other that there used to be a farm a farmers market up there when the
building was there and we put that in his part or perhaps a community event
again well that threw them into oh my gosh you
know hundreds of cars going into a farmers market so we had that’s just an
example of how we had to bring them back and say okay so no that’s not really
what we’re talking about in this rural community we’re talking about a
completely different traffic count for events there it’s not like your standard
Westminster City where you’re you know you’re you’re looking at a lot of you
had a school with buses and parent drop-off which handled fine right which
is what we we reiterated to them during this meeting to ensure that they
understand that you know engineers and with all due respect to them look at the
they kind of look at it like this and we wanted them to open it up and look at it
at him as it pertains to that particular community are there gonna be times up
there when there’s a lot of traffic maybe but not at peak hours like they
were at the school and we got that I think we’ve got that I think we did and
I think it was very well received it was not contentious from state highway it
was an appreciation for them to now understand what our expectations are of
that community up there using that community center so yeah I was I was
very appreciative of them I was very appreciative of their proactiveness I
mean the administrator was on the phone reaching out to folks looking at where
he can find other funds that’s pretty impressive when you got somebody like
that that’s because of the dialogue that we’re having with state highway and the
engineers and any administrator so department we have
to do next yeah and but there what there may be some funding available but to to
your answer or to your question dick you know I will say that I suspect when this
work is done this will be all that we’ll probably
need to do I don’t anticipate any you know giant lanes up there as a matter of
fact when we pointed out to them that if you did something coming southbound
you’d be on the on the front porch of the folks that live there which I don’t
know that they’ll appreciate you know they saw the challenges that because of
the tightness of that corridor there but yet they were willing to say okay well I
think if you do this I think you’ll be fine
so to answer your question I think what these partial lanes or whatever we’re
going to do I think will be it agree I would agree I want this project in order I think they absolutely worked with us
and provided us with best case scenario that
we could achieve out there with that I’m gonna move that the Board of County
Commissioners award the transportation design engineering services to Charles
Carroll Community Center to KCI technologies in the amount of $23,600
second time any other questions all in favor hi Matt hi Manas thank you
thank you got him you’re doing it I know it’s been some challenges there and Eric
and I want to thank you specifically because I know you’ve been doing a lot
of work I see you’re down the road Roger would you like a positive thing to to
one’s good right that’s right two to zero will be even better okay Carroll County small business
funding is next on our agenda economic development mr. Lai Bern good morning commissioners morning J I’m
here to to two items this is an exciting item because after many years we’re
getting the SBDC office back in our office the Steve should be coming over
sometime the last hopefully the last week in June if we can get him over
sooner we will do that the what we’re here today is the funding
a vase a couple weeks ago we the budget at the Miller center the number was 148
thousand eight thirty we’ve been working with the college in a college now will
receive 110,000 so the motion that we need is that you give back to the
funding from the Miller center the Cal Community College to Department of
Economic Development thirty-eight thousand eight hundred and thirty
dollars and that would be that you adopt resolution 0.2 0.01 businesses have been
agreed upon by the college and everyone else the the number stays the same to
two hundred fifteen thousand for the office okay I’m gonna let you roll with
this one because I are you done jack cut me off
hi mister rosti I I appreciate Jack you and your team working with the Community
College the SBDC along with those nonprofits that we also support in this
in this budget for small business putting it continuing to keep it under
your umbrella is significant knowing where the resources are of the folks
like SBDC along with the funds that you and they can provide in partnership with
the community colleges training programs and their resources that they have
that this is a good news story for Carroll County it’s a good news story
where folks and we have these discussions where small businesses that
either exist and or those that want to be created here in the county know where
to go and they know to go to you economic development to get the
resources and and the commitment from you and all others within this budget to
provide to include to college and the chamber and the others so I definitely
applaud it so remind us again just what what this
means because I know that we’ve talked about it briefly before but we’re
actually going to relocate to here right correct
yes PDCA so previously there was a location down Main Street where SBDC had
a councilor SBDC being a small business development counselor from the SBA along
with a an individual that was funded through us and and the College located
downtown the intent here is to no longer have that leased space downtown bring
the counselor here under your you know in your office from SBA with the SBDC
bring the individual from the college back to the College and he will have the
opportunity to be using the resource to college along with your office and yeah
I think it’ll just add more synergy it’ll add more clarity for small
businesses to know where to go as opposed to going to three different
locations they know to come to you and that’s a good thing we-well three will
still be our partners we’ll be working close with the Chamber of Commerce the
Carl Technology Council in magic while we still funding that well we still have
a strong relationship with Miller you know with Tom over at the college we’ll
continue that the good news is as a sidebar we have an office for him
we’ve been screwing around we have almost all the furniture we just need a
desk and we’re going to purchase that today
for about a thousand hours but we have the tables the chairs and everything
everything else so we’re you know we’re kind of excited to get him over here and
start this new partnership and the best part about this is this was done with
our team here at the community college SBA has PPC all in the room together
coming up with the best solution we reduced the chamber by $2,500 they do a
lot in the I know small business in town six hundreds of members why I could I can’t answer I mean check this
is what was agreed upon at the college level um that can be changed you know so
the so the individual amounts that are going to the six here some of those were
tweaked tweak’d a little bit I think that’s where you’re going yeah why are
why I mean obviously CDC and Magic stayed the same but the Chamber saw a
decrease it’s a great question you’re looking at me I think what we can reduce
or add you know yes we can you can tweak whatever you want here so we immerse you
know and I think it’s worth a lot of that has to do with their with their
their what he caught the name out of me now well you know this competition
makerspace makerspace now when you going there sorry I’m in the same building but
not matter but I think that’s what we use that’s what we utilize or that’s
what they utilize not we they utilize us to to bring small business the potential
for a small business in there to use to utilize magics makerspace right Edie
you’re more I believe so but I honestly I’m not gonna stick to here and say this
is how the funds for magical being used I do not know I’m not now I just
question I know it’s a good question yeah and we’re keeping it flat from last
year to this year I am except for the chamber yeah except for this chamber if
we moved if we kept it flat from the chamber and brought it back up to ten
thousand taking it from the twenty four five from
we could do that but I’d like to talk to Micah rather because we’re gonna use
that for advertising the kickoff events for our you know Lord so I’ll I will
sorry you’re gonna be doing some things that they used to do that you’re better
suited to do we think so but we have a good partnership with Mike McMullen in
the chamber we will that we would agree but we have a good working relationship
that we will I think it’s important again to state that these figures were
agreed upon by all parties correct jeff’s yes I mean we didn’t look unless
you feel as if you know we can I mean it’s it’s up to us so we can certainly
you can reduce the figures of here if you’re concerned about the ten thousand
for the chamber you know there’s there’s three areas you could reduce yeah magic
Carol Technology Council and then you have our department how much time did
you spend when you were working your way through this this challenge and on the
specific amounts to each of the each of these I mean was there a lot of time
spent or not I mean no there wasn’t that time spent but the folks of attention I
apologize was on to college SBDC the large muscle movements to college SBDC
and our office year in county government we were not addressing in my discussions
the three others so we did we did not either we didn’t discuss the other
that’s right so my recommendation the other three being the chamber it’s a
champion magic correct so my my recommendation is that we keep them flat
from 2019 2020 and we take twenty five hundred dollars from our economic
development team keeping it making it to twenty-two thousand
cheers it back up to 10,000 so there’s no surprises for them okay how to be
fine coarse sack okay okay so the money stays the same here it’s just that
you’re taking 22:5 from economic development putting it back to the
chamber to keep them at ten correct and that gives Cece or 25 economic
development 22,000 correct so it would be 110 20 2015 8 10 75 and
75 and you have any additional questions about the magic part of this cuz you the
answer sometime not right now but in the future I’d like to give an answer
how about what it goes for but we’re fine we’ll work we have a history of
working with ever whatever you give us you know that’s fair yeah
again the I apologize not having the specifics on the three others the large
muscle move is what we were looking at and I do believe this is overall good
news story this the program is great yeah I think this is a moving right
direction so don’t get me wrong I just question where it all I think that’s
that’s a perfectly legitimate question but I will say that I think we are
better suited now because the fact that it’s downstairs
to answer your question exactly as opposed to before
yeah because before it was all the resources are here playing into right
permits are here no so to Commissioner Weaver’s inquiry I would say to you Jack
keep your eye on that and get back to us with some sort of a report maybe early
fall but we’ll give you a quarter on a quarterly report okay and that way you
you can zero in on what you’re asking right okay okay we’re gonna change the
motion though yeah so add the two well just additions yeah let’s just yeah if
we could say maybe just maybe just the easiest thing
to do is just identify the funding for each of the organizations as as you guys
have discussed it then that way it’s clear not to each yeah just it’s just
sort of like you did justice I’m gonna go you ran down it so you want to do
that is the motion okay so the motion then but we don’t have to take each one
of them you’re saying it’s still to there’s a crime one big motion that just
says I don’t okay so Miller right okay so okay in
other words moving that the board commissioners agreed to the following
funding for FY 20 mil or Center at Carroll Community College received one
hundred and ten thousand dollars Carroll County Economic Development receiving
$22,000 Small Business Development Center receiving $58,000 Chamber of
Commerce Carroll Technology Council and magic all three receiving ten thousand
dollars each Tommy Chamber of Commerce receiving ten thousand I apologize
Carroll Technology Council and magic receiving 7500 the total will still be
the same as maybe two hundred fifteen thousand dollars so I apologize okay
I got a motion in a second be good with that yeah we’ll do a second motion for
the resolution that okay any additional all in favor aye
that’s unanimous right now and then adopt of resolution 0 to 0.01 codifying
that date all these changes and that’s what it would do is that one resolution
would put it all together so just as commissioners transfer the funding from
Miller’s go resolution stop resolution zero tech to 0.01 okay when you come to a fork in the road take
it very any other comments I want to thank Commissioner Austin’s leadership
on this he’s been very instrumental in making
this happen you know small business development is critical so thank you
very much for your initiative and leadership Thanks all in favor aye
thank you thank you the proof is in the execution they’re
saying we’re gonna go buy dust and we’re gonna have you here as soon as we can
okay thanks Jax all right next is the surplus property sale mr. maverick the
previous board we were allowed to uh they deemed 23 properties surplus and we
sold 22 of them however we we worked with our attorney’s office air and we
advertised this devlin squared Eden pond is 1.1 seven acres twice and
we got no bidders on the on the parcel the I guess about two years ago it’s
been about two years ago that the neighbor the previous owner of this
parcel put a shed we allowed him to put a shadow on our property and when this
new owner bought the house a couple years ago he was negotiating with also
on the price he wanted to you know buy the little parcel that the shed was on
it he just came back to us it’s about point zero three nine of land
and if you look at it you had this you you had that you had this it doesn’t
deter from us going back out we still have a little more a little less than an
acre of the sell but he’d like to buy two point zero three nine for $2,500 and
he would pay for all the subdivision and and work with you know our attorneys so
I I think it’s a good deal for everyone here at someone win for both of us and
we’ll go back down and try to market to you know the little less than an acre it
is our 10 it’s in the city but it does not have city
water and source so it’s well in septic but I recommend it you we’ve been
working closely with Tim on this one that did you approve the sale for $2,500
this parcel the start button was a surplus parcel just a matter of
procedure here Tim we typically do this in another manner correct or no not sale
of land okay yeah we do that with purchase right let’s see okay all right
okay just want to make sure so we’ve been through this before that that that
that piece of property it’s it’s not only it’s not we’re not putting the road
in there anymore are we no so what are we gonna do with the rest
of it whose house is on the rest of it this is the only parcel we have left
oh that’s the only this is the only piece that’s left to be peace okay yeah
like that’s one one so we’re not putting a road through we’re gonna try to sell
that part all you’re gonna talk okay okay so you are gonna try to sell yes
we’re gonna try to sell well put it back down for the third time okay okay well
we got new bidder as the other two times and this has been a you know we’ve been
working with this for about two years now right yes you finally stepped up and
said I want to buy it and then I’ll pay you twenty five hundred hours and I’ll
go ahead and do all the subdivisions and be talking to Tim minai for years now
and regard it was involved in this still gonna cost you more to bars
people have it’s man could be okay with that I knew the board commissioners
approved the sale of this partial surplus lamp any other questions
all in favor aye miss yours thank you thank you jack
bacon flavor Thank You Jackson why do I have in my briefing book I don’t know
did they are taxing that tourism define us and how we use those didn’t we
already decide that yeah okay I just wanted to make sure we weren’t missing
something that wasn’t on the agenda right no I saw it in there I think it
was just a mistake okay all right that’s fine I just want didn’t want to neglect
something there okay I thought maybe it was just my book too
yeah all right thanks jack all right request approval for purchase generator
for the maintenance facility and transfer of funds Justin’s here Chris let notch and I really man did I
murder your name earlier so you know anyway I was giving you kudos for
yesterday’s event well thank you yeah so very well done and I know we’ve gotten
some positive feedback out of that and we appreciate that so thank you for that
thank you we were I was down on southern part of the county with the Sheriff’s
Office working on a truck enforcement detail this morning so I didn’t get to
see that yeah how’d that go it’s going well okay all right
generator Justin yeah morning commissioners on the first motion here
is facilities is requesting to transfer seventy one thousand four hundred and
forty seven dollars from the 5307 transit grant to the Hazard Mitigation
grant this is due to in-kind services that facilities cannot support at this
time for the installation of the maintenance center generator hmm all
right you want to layman term that force um so when we apply for the grant we had
a master electrician with facilities right who is gonna do the in-kind
installation of this work since then we have an open position and we cannot fill
the installation of the generator and the electrical portion of it okay so we
were requesting these transfer funds to support for urban Francis to do the
install of the of the generator okay so we’re getting a sub in order to do the
work right couldn’t do ourselves exactly so originally have to transfer the funds
okay s okay and then you have to approve the purchase of the generator
yeah that’s why you’re here – do the transfer and then we’ll prove you
purchase you’re not really you don’t really do anything with the electrician
that’s coming in you’re just here for the generator you threw me off man all
right so we’re transferring 71 for 47 is that right Justin correct that’s what
it’s gonna cost to put the put the generator in and we’re getting that out
of transit grant to hazard mitigation grant where you what one explained that
one Ted was there money left over in that particular fund or something or
what no I don’t want to explain okay yes there was we had money budgeted as
potential match against some buses that we did not get other 24 so the buses
didn’t happen the matches not needed there okay so it’s just a way of kind of
simultaneously taking care of this and cleaning up part of something that would
have to be done eventually okay just want to make sure everybody
understood is going on there so okay good move alright alright with that I’ll
entertain a motion that I don’t know is there any other questions on what’s
happening here okay I’ll move the Board of Commissioners approve the transfer
seventy one thousand four hundred forty seven dollars a new sense general fund
dollars from FY 1853 or seven to transit grant to the house of this mitigation
grant second okay any other questions all in favor of that hi that’s unanimous
now it antenna pointing hiring him if we don’t have something for him to do
that’s right so now we’re gonna do the generator and what size general thing
engines running this um existing we have a 150 kW and we’re gonna increase that
to 600 kW so we can have the whole maintenance facility one generator
backup now you only have Hiro County what’s that even light up here for Carol
can we could that’s a substantial increase yeah right now or the building
is only partially one generator backup and we’re gonna convert that River for
the whole facility for emergency operations that we’d run out of there
we’re gonna need complete power yeah I’ve never understood why we didn’t do
that before it was kind of crazy to me what size engine Rogers um 600 kW as in like horsepower yeah I don’t know
but I can get the answer I think all cat no charge engine without wouldn’t I
don’t know that it’s big big yeah you gotta watch what you say I know it sees
rooms begged its own people I can’t see eighteen so it doesn’t say
horsepower but yeah Google that quick okay what’s the potential life
expectancy of just generated um that kind of varies it varies on runtime how
much load is on to generate or during runtime maintenance of it do you can
expect twenty to twenty-five years it’s good yeah so we don’t have to worry
about seeing this again no one else well I’m Lee what kind of work what kind of
warranty let’s see here through cat leave its five-year on the engine and
one year parts and warranty Wow that’s typical for there
I’ve put a couple of sentences at the valley and this 600-horsepower yeah
there you go the engine is $640 you’re listening
right if nothing else I’m impressed that you’re listening Jeff so give us the
details Mike yes so to get maximum pricing our best pricing is what we’re
gonna do it’s one project but we’re an issue three different contracts we need
your you know approval to word three different contracts so we’re buying the
generator from Albin cat often existing contracting the amount of one hundred
and twenty thousand dollars we’re gonna buy the switch from capital electric
supply in the amount of seventy nine thousand nine hundred and eighty seven
dollars and then we’re gonna use urban Frances for the install four hundred
eight thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars okay so the 71 447 that we just
did that was part of the 108 correct okay all right
any challenges with putting that out there Chris from from your perspective
yeah we’re good and that’s gonna light everything what about the few island
absolutely how about the soft down no yes everything everything okay
that’s good car wash even to case you want to go out and wash the vehicles
good well that’s the additional wiring to run this and outside the switchboard
oh no the generator gonna sit outside we’re gonna run it into a new
switchboard switch panel no additional water contained exactly yes the old one
that’s out there 1982 yeah I know you’re not gonna fine I mean
what do we do with that stuff Oh we’ll try to sell them on public
purchase okay and then there might be somebody so people come get it yeah
somebody pry it’s still functional right absolutely yeah
okay all right this is good news because we’re long overdue for making sure that
that whole area is lit up out there that’s unacceptable when we’ve talked
about that past couple years yes this came up so all right I’m gonna make the
motion that we award contracts for the purchase and installation of the
emergency generator at the maintenance center all been cat 120,000 the
switchboard from Capitol electric 479 nine eighty seven and the install by
urban Frances 108 to 16 any other questions all in favor aye
unanimous thank you thank you what’s timeline on that by the way 12 to
18 weeks delivery okay so we got some time we’re gonna work with electrician
make sure we get a game plan together okay um it’s gonna happen over weekend
just as always it down yes okay would you say just the time for the first
snowstorm as long as it’s before it yeah yeah
during or after rites dude come on it’s 70 degrees out we would knock it off
alright bit approval for fuel island modifications who’s up what that joined
by Thad Highlander our facilities project manager priests a good morning
you’ve been here a while buddy Ginobli okay
they say staying at the maintenance center how we need to do some upgrades
to the fuel and so what we’d like to do is pick you back off a contract Howard
County went out to bid for very similar work recently they’re low bidder was
total environmental concepts so we’d like to piggyback off that contract in
the amount of thirty two thousand six hundred twenty dollars and eighty cents
okay so what are we doing out there I mean I see spill containment what yeah
we didn’t have that out there before that everything that is is in place
right now however it’s either below grade or at grade so every time it rains
the spillways and the man waves take on water which MDE is not very happy about
that so we have to prevent this or do the best we can prevent we’re getting
these man waves and then spill buckets and the way we do that is raise them a
couple inches above grade I’m gonna have to shut down the fuel
island for a while guess while we’re doing this or what what’s the story on
that just absolutely one side Ellis’s to the salt dome will be shut down for one
week while they construct and that’s dependent on weather and then it’ll be
shut for at least another week depending on whether it’s a set concrete deck
swallows oh yeah okay so we figured minimum two possibly three weeks okay much needed out there as well can’t
believe that’s happen all right any other questions on this I’ll make the
motion we awarded project total environmental concepts for the few
island modifications in the amount of thirty two thousand six hundred twenty
dollars and eighty cents second anything else all in favor aye
that’s unanimous as well thank you guys Thank You commissioners every day you
too alright bit approval for replacement of
deteriorated water valve bolts that’s very at various locations in
freedom district sorry Commissioner Weaver out this Hey
I’m originally I’m throwing up stainless steel bolts originally I’ll explain more
about okay Andy good morning good morning
oh I need to do the show-and-tell when I’m finished here yeah we have several
deteriorated would have out bolts in the freedom district area so we went out to
bid the heavies replaced got two bids and the lowest bidder was HTI
contractors in the amount of forty six thousand one hundred and fifty two
dollars we’d like to go ahead and Ward the contract for them to do the
replacements we ended background gentlemen believe it or not there may be
as many as eleven hundred obligations forty-three that we have tracked and
right now that have non stainless steel bolts that will be assembly together
this is the problem that we’re having that’s a non stainless steel bolt that’s
on the bottom it’s absolutely sheared off what’s
happening is the slightest bit of movement when we excavate we barely
punch the bolts and they snap right off so what we’re trying to do is is is to
take a proactive approach to move ahead and start doing these and mas as opposed
to waiting and we come across the bass so what what has happened is these these
will primarily install during the ten to twelve year building boom cycle in the
mid mid 80s to the to the mid 90s or so as the valves age they they obviously
have issues associated with them and they snap off off without warning and
may result in serious water service and Construction challenges complicating
matters we have little confidence and turning the valves that do not have
announced they are still polls for the obvious reasons and as I mentioned we
are transitioning from a reactive to proactive approach from this point
forward this contract will allow the allow us to work on 21 valves throughout
the Sykesville area there are basically three groups of about seven each we
think these are one of those three of the oldest areas that they have these
issues associated with them the average cost per location is about
$2,200 it may sound like a lot of money but it involves a pavement cut material
for bolts at each location backfill the pavement paths and traffic
control for the young intersection so there is a lot of it’s not simply just
showing up and taking four points out but before backing us it’s pretty
complicated I put a bet to rush to the valve I’m sorry the rest of the valve is
that bracer its breast body we do tests the valves while we’re out there the
contractor has valves on hand if the valve towards somebody bad we are
turning the valve during the replacement process valves cost
approximately $1,500 if they if they arm for sake
so we will make use of the contractor being on site to take care of that other
issues business has potential cost ever ride in it the use of those bolts that were
replacing those were the standard that were being used across Maryland or I
mean what we’re gonna presume were changed something now I’m not sure the
current bolts do me doing stammers I think these things don’t want to be
promised yeah I would imagine they would but how about the ones that were
replacing decision had to have been made I’m wide to use those bolts and I would
expect it would be a state standard or a standard used because we’re paying for
something that should not have been put in place and I’m curious if the other
counties in the state are finding the same thing if we didn’t find out from
the state are they going through a bulb replacement process across the state
which is now we’re talking much much much more than what we’re guilty of
research on that information for you because if there is something from the
state then maybe we can leverage the state in funds from the state if it’s a
program across the state saying here we’ve identified this this can be
catastrophic if it’s not done and they’re you know another way of looking
at other funds so how much pressures on these water pressure who’s it about so there’s a standard grade five or not
radiates interesting this could be a gift that keeps on giving
yeah yeah I don’t know yeah no state would have a program but it sounds like
you know this could be something identified from the state saying hey
there’s across the board we might want to look into that no I I don’t know I
don’t know if other counties are going through this or not I’m wondering if
initially the stain still both grading didn’t meet the capacity under the
pressure limits and that a carbon steel boat would that might have been what
calls us and make sure that whatever boats we get in stainless meet the grade
standard for pressure that’s something we see a lot in my industry for
different you know putting the stainless steel bolts in there that don’t meet the
grade requirements of the universal standard because then we can have what
Val is busting open now the question is the timing of this is it necessary to
fund this now or doing some of the homework to see if there’s other you
know if the state does has identified this what I would like to do is move
forward with with with the name problem errors for example we had a problem last
summer on tiny tiny Ridge Boulevard Road near near near 26
yep we tried to we had a water main break and we tried to turn three valves
off each of the three vows now we gonna make we have a sizable capital
project in place for this program I would I would really like to move
forward with these 21 and also do to do the research to to answer this question
as well Jeff yeah thank you a lot of good work that you’re looking out these
valve replacements take a lot of time sounds like we’re gonna be in and out in
nine weeks right this is gonna be over the next year plus you know and
depending on where the valves are located I think we as Andy stated I
think we get some of them continue to work on some of these projects getting
something starting to get them replaced track all the documentation trying to
you know track photographs etc the case there is a reimbursement and this could
also come down to a simple case later on of at the time that was you can buy a
valve a for X dollars and don’t be a little cheaper but it it’s a valve and
me you know met the specifications at the time that’s what might have been
purchased so it might have been a financial you know it might have been a
financial move at the time to big go for cheapest could’ve been just the way it
was to and no one thought about it you know if anything’s over the lowest
bidder yeah yeah I’m I’m not in the mindset a whole project though because I
so you get done going through all the bureaucracy that we see with all this
stuff we could be months delayed I don’t think that’s a good idea
probably with you not to find out all the details I’d like to think that our
staff already has a handle on and it is a lot of money it but in the time you
wait for these answers you’ll get one or two failures and it’ll I mean it’s not
out of Maui giving it that’s gonna come your vote anyways I just I’m just not
dumb um I’d like you to look at the potential perhaps some reimbursement if
it’s there but I don’t I don’t really want to hold up the project I think we
need to roll that’s just my opinion when I come before you’re done for the next
types to be part of this contract I never okay yeah it’s a valid increase
you know I mean I’m gonna make the motion that we were to contract for the
replacement deteriorated water valve uhlet’s at various locations and freedom
the HTI 446 152 well second alright let’s see how this goes any
other questions yeah clear cause I’m with Commissioner Weaver
I’m just not comfortable aligned 46 down not for a blanket project for various
locations where if it’s $2,000 you’re fixing a problem that’s at hand got it
but there’s still some questions out there on where other funding could come
from and I think we need to do that work first before we give in a blank contract
like this that just let you know with the the work that we did with our
contractors we invited the contractors after these sites they have seen these
with their eyes we’re just not picking they can be the areas out and there are
the the average cost of 2,200 involves a wide variety of site site location site
conditions so some of these some of these may cost as little as a thousand
or so but others are more complicated image ops three to four thousand have
there been how many sites have been identified in
the freedom district that need replacements right now well long term we
estimate approximately 1,100 valves may have this issue we’ve identified these
21 as some of the worst areas right now the 46 152 is that in that it’s already
in the budget right this is not extra part of the capital can Jeff do you want
to add something I just had the estimations that Andy is given about the
left hundred it may be plus or minus a few our asset management system what we
do is part we we put this information is where I Samantha’s system and it
identifies and characterized valves that were constructed and that’s how you know
he knows we’re from like a 10-year period middays to mid-90s to know that
we from the fetters that we’ve had over the last multiple years that we better
go in an emergency basis do replacements they look at those and say well you know
why are these why are these failing other than other valves they go back
figure out it’s the bolts they look at it as saying well some of these aren’t
you know and they’ve narrowed it down to like a 10-year span of time been able to
put back into the asset management program to ask it tell us all the valves
are constructed within this time frame that’s how they’ve been able to narrow
down to the 1100 based off the information that they have with 21
they’ve inspected plus farish’s that over the last few years so that was you
know that’s kind of the asset management system working for us give me the
advantage of narrowing down timeframe and its issues we have because we’ve
seen that before with bike manufacturers where there were some pipes that were
constructed in the late 70s for like a two-year span had the metallurgy of it
was wrong was incorrect when they mixed it they found all pipe within a two-year
span was actually you know subject earlier failure
we’ve been and we’ll narrow that down also to make sure that we didn’t happen
it was luckily in our system but many other places across the country
that system no I appreciate I think my biggest concern is that we’re putting a
finger in the dike and $46,000 is going to close up that that little hole but
the potential of it being much greater holding that dike I mean we got a
problem and if we don’t identify the funding that potentially could be out
there it’s gonna cost us a whole lot more than the 46,000 so this right now
that’s what we’re doing you’ve identified problem you’re putting your
finger in the dike you wanna fix 21 locations but there’s a potential of the
be much greater that’s so all I ask and I and I agree
with this now in understanding this but I ask that you look for the to the state
and have that conversation with them is this a systemic issue across the state
and maybe we can identify state funding as well because this seems to be you
know something that can grow very quickly you know as an issue sir okay
all right any other comments on this I’ve got a motion in second all in favor
aye aye aye unanimous okay all right that’s that one
Award of alternate items for the Hampstead wastewater treatment plant of
great project so we are currently under contract with Conewago enterprises to do
the Hampstead wastewater treatment plant Ian’s or upgrade that projects well
underway when we did the bid one of the add alternate items it wasn’t part of
the base bid but was an alternate item was in the amount of 1 million eight
hundred forty three thousand four hundred four dollars and fifty four
cents what we’d like to do today is go ahead and award that at alternate item
add it to the contract and have this work done so what’s the alternate what
do we add in here all right what the add alternate is is for if it’s just for
three major major components is for sand filters or ultraviolet disinfection and
improvements to our sludge system and the main reason these were pulled out of
the primary contract was these were not part of the MD
in our grant funding reimbursement program so these would be paid for by
the county outside of the grant funded program as far as the the funding stream
the the primary bid was was funding was in place for that and with the FY 19
budget the ad alternate was was always planned to be funded as part of the FY
2011 during during the UH pre-bid meeting
with with the with the contractors we did make it very clear that we would
award the primary did last year and not the ad alternate so that there does
nothing stand they were alarming about this it was part of the overall process
we just took that out of the mix for the grant process that’s all more with every
intent of putting it back in in order to complete the project as a whole
yes it just makes the cash for a lot these components are are part of the
very agent planet as you saw would recite this out you have the
Commissioner Weaver they are definitely needed to meet yet the MDE effluent and
permitting requirements they were always part of the overall plans we have
process so we’re not taking monies from anywhere else they’re just already a
project was grown and slated for the FY 2008 process are we doing the latest and
greatest with sand filters let me know yes that sounds to me a little bit
antiquated but maybe it’s not in this instance
yeah same folders are are very crucial part of the predation on what they do is
they’re they’re the last step that takes out the the fines of the solids that are
part of the wastewater effluent stream prior to discharge you are receiving
stream them very very critical portable crosses it
seems and you they’d come up with something other this and who things
organic there right well yeah I guess something’s I’m looking at my previous
swimming pool career and that sand filter things were way going from there
they now have other technology that that clears up cool water in a in a day
that’s why I’m asking it wanted to support the overall process and in the
art back well I got and if it was everybody be out of the pool right said
yeah but I said what but I do know there’s
there’s a movie about that remember that means anyway yeah okay do we do we take
that the sands got to be changed I’m sure to from Colorado’s yeah so what
guys do that or okay alright okay seems like a lot of money but it was if it was
in the project anyway it’s not like it’s on you this is not an add-on you were
coming here with that I’d be like wait no that’s guaranteed the water comes out
of this is gonna be able to be totally able to drink down the line right in
that way minutes close now big talk Jeff guaranteed me a couple years ago it’s
gonna be a mood board of commissioners order a change order to the contract to
a Hampstead wastewater treatment plant in or upgrade project for the add
alternate alternate items to Conowingo enterprises in amount of 1 million eight
hundred forty three dollars four hundred and four 843 four hundred and four
dollars and fifty four cents second 50 portions price is a means of Santa
didn’t ago she ate that out all right got a motion to second any other
questions all in favor aye that’s unanimous
okay freedom wastewater treatment plant upgrade what we are before you today is
for a fun transfer transferred to to cover a negative balance in the account
for the freedom wastewater treatment plant project the this product that this
project was that was also in the nr upgrade for me for the large freedom
treatment plant it began in 2015 and was completed in early 2018 as you may as
you likely know the state of Maryland owns the freedom wastewater treatment
plant in its own and it’s operated by the Maryland environmental service so as
part as part of the original agreement with within the S the county was
responsible for about 74 percent of the operation of the anticipated
construction costs as construction began there were a series of change orders
that that’s the place series of 17 change orders and the end result was the
the project was cost overruns came into place of approximately $7,000 and mes is
in the process right now in trying to repeat some of those overages from the
contract or Norton the where there’s construction quality issues there’s time
constraint issues there’s a very good chance that we may recoup some of this
cost of over words and in terms of reimbursement from the contractor so we there is that the fall back on at this
point where we’re asking us that small balance is left and to finalize couple
counts be transferred to cover some of this cost every week sewer number two
and for those told that that tells about eight thousand dollars and in the end
the additional funding would come out of what we call people leave sewer number
six contractor that’s for revamping a sewer main that runs from Rogers Road
area damp down to the three which we complain we don’t have any construction
plan for that in the very near future our hope is that with the reimbursement
over funding from from mes in the contractor these funds will be
transferred back into that account what construction it was playing for at
work okay yeah look the Hajis that’s also saw mine is an assault okay that’s
assault I don’t yeah roads in my viewers here sir combined cycle
okay expectation we’re cooping at 70,000 I’ve been assured by mes as very good
chance of some of them maybe not the entire amount they have a strong case
okay I’ll make the motion that the boiler commissioners approve a budget
transfer request in the amount of $70,000 to CIPD six four one nine clean
on wastewater treatment plant in our upgrade from CIP six three seven for
relief sewer number two CIP you 6-3 7-6 relief Seward number four and CIP six
three seven eight relief sewer number six second okay I do read that whoa what was that
that is clear as mud right okay any other questions all in favor aye
all right drainage and paving improvements to the Edgewood pumping
station so the county needs contractor to do the drainage and paving
improvements at the Edgewood pumping station so we went out to bid we receive
four bids and Mt Laney was the low bidder and they mounted thirty-eight
thousand seven hundred ninety five dollars a nuisance background for this
project is the pump station was constructed in 1994 works the driveways
approximately 800 feet long it’s made out of hot mix asphalt it’s in very poor
condition it’s cracked in many potholes there’s also a major drainage issue
right now so the the work will include the
complete removal of the asphalt driveway free new asphalt in place as well as San
Fran’s improve his game and this project was planned as part of
the FY 19 budget process why do you think the disparity in bids
see this level or toy Sam hell yeah and then we we we invited what we had a
site meeting with all four contractors all four were given the same information
we all we want this light with them these were how they I guess some some
wanted the work more than others and Lanie’s got access to good pricing on
asphalt and so they they go good question thank you
I mean it is quite a busy barity there I know yeah yeah they just bought up the
asphalt plant don’t know what’s over okay if the Eleni bid was was alone by
itself the HDI good right hand was good okay yep pulling for in disclosure like
the state that my corporation does business with empty Lainey and they were
a campaign supporter so I’m going to abstain from voting on this where is the
Edgewood pumping station new commissioners I’ve only been here for a
year away from was the freedom oh yeah got it okay all right all right I would
make the motion we award a contract for drainage and paving improves with
pumping station to Mt Laney in the amount of thirty eight thousand seven
hundred and ninety five dollars alright any other questions all in favor aye
that’s three in one abstentions thank you nicely done okay yeah well it makes
sense that it’s alright we did all that and now we’re gonna buy a truck new
four-wheel drive service truck with crane and Keith’s here our bureau chief
of fleet that’s a serious truck oh it’s got a crate yeah they’re serious
drugs okay good morning or afternoon afternoon we went out to bid for a new
four-wheel drive service truck with the crane this is a replacement truck that
will be used by fleet management for road service one County vehicles and
equipments we did receive three bids we’re asking for your concurrence to
award to Bob Fisher Chevrolet in the amount of one hundred thirty eight
thousand dollars no sense this amount is within the budget and no additional
funds will be necessary what sighs okay Scooby its Chevy Silverado 6500 will
have a NAPA hide mechanic service body on it with torches a weld or a generator
an air compressor and a crow fully ready to go yes
hey I said it’s a serious job yeah it is I take it the price tag is for the exact
truck just three different vendors no it’s all one package from I think Bob
Fisher Chevrolet they supply the chassis and then they get the body and do the up
fit and everything so under 38 will be a total yeah but from the other two bids
the 146 158 it was the same it’s it’s the exact same truck same yes okay
probably good dad oh well that’s probably off some kind of a bid other
folks are on to write patina is that right I guess right Mike this is what we
did oh is this what it’s just flat out or
snow and what’s a good place excuse me what is this going to replace this is
gonna replace a 2008 Ford f-550 service truck how many miles you have on it it
has 79 thousand eight miles but it has four thousand nine hundred and
twenty-five hours I want to multiply that out by 40 miles an hour technically
has a hundred and ninety seven thousand miles on it okay time for new well not necessarily
400,000 for a heavy-duty truck right yeah this that our current truck is also
a little underweight for what we’re carrying our GVWR is 17 950
when we last weighed it with everything we need we were at 20,000 300 pounds
yeah that’s not good so the new truck will be 22,000 pounds so it should serve
us much better now is this a replacement element are we still able to use the
truck that’s we that you said is can be replaced but it’ll still be able to be
used we’re currently using it when the new one comes in we will be selling it
selling it okay got it okay Betty one you’re gonna sell it good
dear okay all right any other questions on this I state for clarification for
people watch and these are not trucks you can just go to the dealership and
pull off the lot the ORS get the chassis and they have to outsource to
contractors and Outfitters to pull together the Pacific package that you’re
looking for that that would explain some of the variation some of the bids
correct all right with that we need a motion I move that
the Board of Commissioners award a contract for a new four-wheel drive
service truck with crane to Bob Fisher Chevrolet an amount of one hundred
thirty eight thousand a second any other questions
all in favor aye aye that’s unanimous and I think I’ve got ESP as to why you
walked back yeah call me I was so anxious to get out of here and off
without an introducing Tina Rucker she’s a good buyer I know I introduced her a
while back but it’s been a while and this is actually her first formal action
in front of the Commissioner so that’s Tina with the bureau first thing get
we’ve seen a lot of her lately we’re really happy to have her great job
excellent welcome aboard Tina thank you good job
yeah first purchase well alright thank you very much thank you yeah all
right for open admin I need to get a motion to adopt the minutes of the Board
of Health meeting and I think that’s all in your books and hopefully you read
each and every word because there’s a test I guess they did I don’t know
anyway we need to approve these minutes from the Board of Health make a motion
to approve the minutes from the Board of Health as written second all in favor
aye okay besides agendas anything else for
open admin anybody somebody anybody miss Hoover Road okay
all right the week of June 17th 9 a.m. on Tuesday is planning and zoning and at
2 p.m. is the veterans advisory meeting with Commissioner Weaver Wednesday the
19th is the Carroll Community College Board meeting that will be a
Commissioner Frazier at 6:00 p.m. on Thursday the 20th we have open session
to include grant award for state’s attorney
work order and an asset management software Public Works facility condition
assessment Public Works software purchase Roberts mill stormwater
retrofit and bridge superstructure cement application and award for level
one screen funding Department of citizen services and nursing facility program
education matching funding for in a grant awarded their group there and
that’s it for that okay so there’ll be two other items from
public safety I will be absent due to being at most of the week at with the
Maryland State Fire Association and then on that Thursday I also be absent I’ll
be with Mako on Thursday and Friday economic alliance with Greater Baltimore
is on that Friday that’s Commissioner Russ I’m sorry
thirsty it’s Commissioner Rothstein at 2:30 and the Maryland tech council
summer sizzler and interesting 5:00 p.m. in Baltimore Commissioner Rothstein I
would be I’d like this a little detail met anyway and Commissioner Rothstein
has the commissioners report for that week all right
the week of June the 24th Tuesday the 25th is breakfast with Weaver and the
only person that’s going is gonna be Fraser Weaver’s not going to be there
but its breakfast with Weaver know you’re gonna be there North Carolina
tame at North Carolina 2:30 p.m. is American Maryland public
television Proclamation presentation and myself and Commissioner Rothstein just a
point about that it’s interesting that MPT in Owings Mills does a ton of
recording here especially with our farming community I know several farms
have been on that channel they can they also do a lot of
things here in the county so we’re gonna honor them with a proclamation because
it’s their birthday so we’re gonna go down there and and do that at 4:30 p.m.
is Carroll County Public Library Westminster branch exploration Commons
groundbreaking and that’s Commissioner Frazier and Rothstein and add me to that
I’m also gonna try to to get to that as well
Thursday the 27th we have open session we’re going to talk about dog parks Road
and storm drains extension of term contract for professional land surveying
services and impact fees probably be some things added to that as well I’m
sure at 7:00 p.m. that evening is a charter government question-and-answer
session with commissioners boo Shan Frazier I have the commissioners report
on the 30th and mr. Rothstein on Sunday at 3:00 p.m. has let freedom ring parade
and you’re a judge I’m a judge that’s in Sykesville with everything any other
items for agenda all right if not with that I’ll entertain a motion to go into
closed for land acquisition second all in favor
and after that I’ll entertain a motion for adjournment sex sex all in favor aye we are
adjourned safe weekend everyone

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