Anti-Gay Sports with Kobe Bryant, Roger McDowell…Dave Zirin Interview

Anti-Gay Sports with Kobe Bryant, Roger McDowell…Dave Zirin Interview


dave’s iran from edge of sports dot com
is with us a lot to talk about with dave we have the kobe bryant anti-gay slur we
have any child player sean avery supporting same sex marriage and then
being ridiculed by sports agent and then of course we have roger mcdowell uh…
using a bats and to simulate gay sex and make fun of people how is this all
happening in the visits to its own breezes and dave yeah yeah mean obviously there’s a huge amount of
coincidence in happenstance all these things taking place but at the same time it shouldn’t be a
that surprising because we’ve seen a growing serious movement rows he bt
rights over the last several years we’ve seen several n_f_l_ players like
stockton gina and brandon i a m today show both of them came out in favor of
same sex marriage we’ve seen several polls taken that
showed that majorities of pro athletes would have no problem with having a_t_t_
made in the locker room so given all the attention based on these issues it shouldn’t be
too surprising that it becomes something that then are generates this level of
discussion after the kobe bryant incident their we
talked to former n_b_a_ player johnny g and he pointed out something that i also
noticed about the initial coby apology which was he was apologizing for people
being upset as opposed to our college ising because he said something
incredibly anti gay uh… is that that’s kind of par for the course with a lot of
these athletes and apologies isn’t it i guess par for the course of a lot of
public figures it never ceases to amaze me ’cause anybody who’s been in any kind
of relationship with somebody knows that
you never apologize by saying i’m sorry you were offended bradbury who were
upset that slight uh… the first thing you are if at any kind of relationship with
anybody and kolbe in the aftermath of bats debated a p_s_a_ him in the other lakers
teammates and i think the thing about chloe is we have to remember is that if
there’s not a microphone there it’s not caught and it’s not even discussed and when it shines a light on is that even
though a lot of male athletes will say
privately that they won’t care if they have a gay teammates when they
have to answer a poll question homophobia is still very accepted in the locker room and it says something
that there are more uh… k_d_ maybe she’ll spend there are active male
professional athletes i mean out k_a_b_c_ apps and there are professional athletes and
it says something about the level of michi smile and the level of abs i don’t
know the what where do you support of the clone it is called it says that being gay is equated with the weakness and being
with each means that it is the speech for you in the world of men’s athletics we’re
still played with this in men’s sports and case incredibly harmful i mean it’s
harmful to women colo are label with the palestinians say
if they’re interested in sports and it’s hard for them and we don’t
measure up to some kind of masculine ideal that colby bryant uh… perpetuates with regard to roger mcdowell of the the
long and short of it is that he said to some fans are you a homo couple or a
threesome and then he used the bat and then his
hands it to simulate sex and what i think that what made the situation
exponentially worse was when gloria allred infront of kids reenacted the
entire thing with a baseball bat with some guy in
making a circle with his with his fingers when i saw that i thought what on earth
is gloria allred thinking bite by re-enacting this whole thing well there are those who say that gloria
are at risk or not mister attorney rush limbaugh happy pat the worst kind of stereotype of what it
means to stand up for liberal causes i mean i put on my
face book page for all of us who wanna fight homophobia in sports gate gloria
allred you’re not helping valiantly that the worst part about it
is that it puts the focus on gloria allred and not on the focus of what occurred
coming right from the mcdowell in one fell swoop at ended elegy bt people appended baseball fans in offending cheats i mean
one of the things he said was that not just uh… the the gay slurs but he also pointed to this family any
query the kids he said you had no place here make every baseball state that’s right i
think that what happened was one of the but those who overheard the said hey
there’s kids here and he responded that kids have no place in the baseball
stadium without it yeah i mean if they’re other witnesses
said that he was referencing the operably cher’s without back when he
said it is at this table on the way way up there and not disclosed to the field
veto that is horrific like the idea that you can’t go down an error in your appetite pitching coach
before a game and it’s one of the things they want to say get over yourself and
but you know the other issue at work here and this is i talked about this i’m
on e_s_p_n_ and i wonder this means i won’t get back but i’m yes pianists is that this is also an issue that the
atlanta braves franchise and i got some lovely act emails and
famous but he led a greater it seemed that in
recent years they had of course that they really can’t retire rocker infamous
lee went off without a homophobic tirade they had their detroit hopping pitcher
john smoltz uh… compared to a marriage to somebody
marrying an animal the thread with uh… its mark on his face and you have the team itself organize a series of these things called
faith nights at the park and they have issued an apology when one of their faces nights involved
the organization to focus on the family yeah it family in organization that promotes in uh… and believes in things like
reparative e therapy araceli tabling infront uh… the atlanta braves stadium
with leaflets about armand hammer carrier gay son or or ear gaidar and that issue an
apology and issue a statement that in future eight nights focus on the family would never be a
part of that again so what i said is you don’t like it get at the atlanta
braves major league baseball really wanna show that they can’t get this the
answers dot suspending roger mcdowell even expelling
roger kicked out why not make analogy bt rights analogy
to be sensibility bt people when i make that apart barbecue
orientation why not put out a statement that says if any of
our players glad to be gay wanna come at the positive majored in baseball’s
supporting one hundred percent quietly something like that yeah pins glad we did not take that that that
happened though given given the situation that you’ve described um… pave real quick role models some we hear very often athletes are inevitably role models and
famously charles barkley eaten mohan said eyes should not be your kids role
model he wrote that in one of his books he said in a number of times inevitably is there some sense that you have that if someone
chooses to be a professional athlete at the top level they are agreeing to be a
role model even if they don’t want to be and therefore have to act based on that
or is it ok to just shirts that responsibility completely uh… you can share irresponsibility all
you want but it’s sort of like shirking the laws of gravity it should be in the acceptance that the
earth is around or that the sky is blue mean you can go out there and act like a
horse’s asses and not a role model but guess what you are role modeling being a
horse’s ass and doing and not doing all the rest of
it armenia and that that’s something i learned when i was a teacher in uh…
d_c_ public schools right out of college is that whether athletes consider
themselves role models are not biggest are incident newcastle question what are
they modeling that’s why with my writing a teddy bear
support of athletes like johnny g or other athletes who take political stance
because if u model the kids hey you’re gonna be a professional athlete that’s a pretty also modeling because of ninety-nine
point nine percent of the will never respect like so but if your model indicates and what you think matters standing on
principle matters having a political thought your head matters not being like
roger mcdowell matters and then i think you’re actually doing
something very positive and it’s something that should be supported by
and immediate back its desire an edge of sports dot com hey
nice job with carson daley i was surprised he knew so much about the
intersection of politics and sports unless a producer was feeding it to
amend the brakes i don’t know what you’re talking about a
letter all right thanks dave protestant if they’re fantastic job sorry take care

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